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Smiller

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Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 10, 2016 4:20 PM
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Hi, I'm using a 50% off subscription month with Bigstock and am picking way too many photos - enough to last me the rest of my writing days if well chosen.

For romance, where do you think is the best direction for the models eyes to be pointing...at the consumer, at each other, or off in the distance?
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 10, 2016 4:39 PM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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This is a great question. It all depends on the content of your book and what it is about, also the feel of the book.

Facing forward = Brave or Strong

Facing up lost in thought = Melancholy or nostalgic

Facing sideways = Finding the other half or looking for something

Facing away = Mystery or suspense

As far as I've seen for romance, they point at each other if they are a couple. Hope this helps. :)

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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 10, 2016 4:51 PM   in response to: luis robles in response to: luis robles
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you have helped, thanks.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 10, 2016 5:55 PM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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Smiller wrote:
Hi, I'm using a 50% off subscription month with Bigstock and am picking way too many photos - enough to last me the rest of my writing days if well chosen.

For romance, where do you think is the best direction for the models eyes to be pointing...at the consumer, at each other, or off in the distance?


Smiller:

I can't speak to book covers, but I do know that when using images on a website, it's almost always advised to have the model looking right AT the person browsing the site. Or, (here's the worth-knowing part), in the direction that you want the user to look/go. So, for example, if your menu is on the left, your model should be facing left.

Maybe that helps?

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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 10, 2016 6:55 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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it does help, thanks. so many angles to think about, but making covers has become my favorite part of writing - even though I'm still not very good, yet.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 11, 2016 9:13 AM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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That is a great question. I do know in commercial advertising a common practice used to be (maybe still is, I haven't checked any magazine ads lately) to have the model looking at subliminal imagery hidden in a pattern, like say an ice cube in the case of a liquor ad, or maybe water, or mountains.

I had an art teacher that did exactly that for a living - he worked for a major ad firm, and he would airbrush imagery, e.g. volcanoes, fish, phallic symbols, jay-jays, etc... in to ad photos. He could grab pretty much any color print magazine like Time or Cosmopolitan, and point out the imagery, and explain the subliminal thought process behind the symbology and arrangement.

He was a fairly successful gallery artist as well and he used the same techniques in his own paintings. He had this one airbrush watercolor painting of a Midwestern farm house silhouetted by storm clouds which at first glance looked intensely ominous and foreboding, more so than say an untouched photograph of the same.

I suppose if you wanted to take your covers for a new level you could investigate it. Google subliminal advertising. I have a book on it but I can't recall the title off hand.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 11, 2016 1:16 PM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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Any which way but down, in my experience. My best seller has her looking over her shoulder in terror, but that's part of the plot.

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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 2:08 AM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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great advice and insights. so much to consider.
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Posted: Nov 12, 2016 12:09 PM   in response to: Alex Ryan in response to: Alex Ryan
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Alex Ryan wrote:
That is a great question. I do know in commercial advertising a common practice used to be (maybe still is, I haven't checked any magazine ads lately) to have the model looking at subliminal imagery hidden in a pattern, like say an ice cube in the case of a liquor ad, or maybe water, or mountains.

I had an art teacher that did exactly that for a living - he worked for a major ad firm, and he would airbrush imagery, e.g. volcanoes, fish, phallic symbols, jay-jays, etc... in to ad photos. He could grab pretty much any color print magazine like Time or Cosmopolitan, and point out the imagery, and explain the subliminal thought process behind the symbology and arrangement.

He was a fairly successful gallery artist as well and he used the same techniques in his own paintings. He had this one airbrush watercolor painting of a Midwestern farm house silhouetted by storm clouds which at first glance looked intensely ominous and foreboding, more so than say an untouched photograph of the same.

I suppose if you wanted to take your covers for a new level you could investigate it. Google subliminal advertising. I have a book on it but I can't recall the title off hand.

so the reader says "is that a hard-on in your eye or are you just happy to see me?"
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 12, 2016 3:28 PM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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It's going to depend on the image and what you want to portray. No one can give you a definitive answer,"Only X", though I vaguely remember seeing something about looking to the right (where a physical book opens) is a subliminal message for the reader to open the book.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 13, 2016 1:20 AM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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It depends how the rest of your cover is looking. Does the model look right looking towards the front? The face to the side? Is it complimenting another face on the cover?
When you say you've downloaded 'way too many photos,' I presume you've passed the free trlal period.
I'd like to ask you a question. If you decide to terminate your account plan, can you still use the downloaded pictures? If you've already used/edited them in a cover design, can the cover design still be used after you've decided to terminate your plan?
Smiller

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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 13, 2016 3:00 AM   in response to: da49ve in response to: da49ve
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It's my understanding that the photos are mine to use whenever I choose, one time.

I did a free week about 8 months ago and this is my first paid subscription. Bigstock did charge my credit card at least once without authorization about 2 months ago...so you have to watch them, but I've noticed lately that companies are very scandalous about cheat charging credit cards, so while I was disappointed in Bigstock, I couldn't pass up the 50% off since I needed photos anyway.

They send discount offers regularly. If you cancel after the trial period, they will offer the same subscription for, I think, $29 that they were quite happy to charge you $79 for if you had been a loyal customer.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 13, 2016 3:21 AM   in response to: Smiller in response to: Smiller
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I read an article about covers which said that you should not show the protagonist's face because, apparently, it could confuse readers who prefer to form their own mental image of what he/she looks like.

But then, like a lot of advice from self-appointed "experts", that could easily be standard BS.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 13, 2016 2:54 PM   in response to: villagoise in response to: villagoise
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Well it seems like all the biggies do that...there is no Claire or Jamie on the Outlander books and no Ana or full faced Christian on 50. But all the Harlequins I used to sneak read when I was a kid had faces... My real problem with these covers is lack of art eye. I can learn the placement rules and the software program, but I'll never have artistic taste.
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Re: Where should model on cover be looking?
Posted: Nov 13, 2016 2:57 PM   in response to: da49ve in response to: da49ve
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I hope the photos can be used after the subscription. I just presumed they could be and never checked.
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