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daxxus386

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How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 5:35 AM
 
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Hi
Could someone give me the answer to a very simple (to experienced publishers/authors) question? I'm new to ebook publishing so am kind of lost with all the formatting/uploading info and anyway at this stage still focused on writing the actual content.

When ready do you upload the whole thing i.e. cover image, toc and the actual content etc as one large formatted .doc file or do you upload several files each containing cover image, toc etc. I read somewhere in Amazon help page that it should all be in one file, somewhere else that the cover image at least should be uploaded separately.

Can anyone start me on the road to formatting/uploading/publishing enlightenment with this?
notjohn

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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 5:46 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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One file only.

If you are working in Word, the images will travel with it. If you are working with html, you must zip the html file together with the images and upload the zip file. If you are working with a Mobi file, you're on your own.
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 6:04 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Thanks for that. As it happens I've just in the last few minutes found and watched the video covering the basics of this and it says to browse/ upload the cover image file and then browse/upload the rest separately.

Are your toc, copyright, resources and disclaimer pages uploaded as separate .doc files to the larger .doc file with the actual content in it?
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 7:10 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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the cover image you upload separately is actually a "product image" It shows in the Amazon store, but does not appear anywhere in the book the customer buys. If you want the book to have a cover (more important now that Kindle is getting more sophisticated) you have to include the cover image (resized to <127 kb) in the book zip file, and insesrted or linked to your document. It is always the first thing in your book.

All of your front matter and back matter should be part of your MS, as one document, unless you are using a converter program that creates a separate toc.
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 7:25 AM   in response to: shaddamax in response to: shaddamax
 
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Thanks that's clarified the dif between product image and cover.
However what's a book zip file, and how would you insert it or link it to a document?
There was silly me thinking you just had to format your content as a .doc file in Word and upload it. Also by MS I assume you mean front & back pages in one file with the rest of the content?
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 8:17 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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If you work in html, you must zip the text file and the images together, then upload the zip file. Otherwise, don't give it a second thought. You don't link the zip file to anything else, or insert it anywhere: it is what creates the book. (I like html, and it's what underlies all Kindle books though you may not see it.)

You can indeed upload a Word doc, but this can sometimes blow up in your face.

You can include a cover image in your ebook, but not everyone does. (I usually don't.) I don't think many people include a back cover.
zorec

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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 9:03 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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daxxus386

You are going to receive several answers to your inquiry in this forum. Make sure you separate the wheat from the chaff. This is easy; the ones that DO NOT include an eBook written or published by them represent the chaff. They will only provide you with an email or a Web address. Ask to see their eBooks first, and then follow the advice of people who do have eBooks in Amazon, because that is precisely what you want to do.

I have 10 books that were personally published by me as eBooks. They all have pictures on them. I was able to solve many of the difficulties that you are confronting now and decided to tell other authors how to ePublish their work. I honestly tell you, the easiest way of preparing your text to be converted into an eBook is by following the advice in my latest publication entitled “Publish Your eBook in 19 Steps” that you can get for only $2.99 – It will definitely save you lots of time and aggravation. It gives you tips on how to easily convert your electronic files (from a word processor) into an eBook that can be read with the Kindle and other devices as well as how to include images, if any. http://IMPORTANT, I DO NOT cover Table of Contents (TOC). If this is vital to you, then check with other authors. Nonetheless, remember that the Kindle has the “Search this book” feature which can be used to move to a given Chapter, for example. If you have a PC and access to the Internet, you don’t need to buy anything else. This eBook also gives you tips on many other topics. Check it out at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005NIYQAE and then decide.

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daxxus386

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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 9:07 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Interesting what you said about not having a cover image for ebook(s).

While I don't think readers/buyers pay much attention to the cover image (I know I don't) and are more influenced by the title wording and reviews, I would have thought that on the other hand the actual absence of a cover image i.e. just a blank space would stand out like a sore thumb and discourage potential buyers.
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 9:45 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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Your Product image is Essential!

And it really should be the Best thing you can either do , Arrange for, or Buy!

As much effort as it takes, it might as well do double duty as your books internal cover!

It costs practically nil over the long haul and it really isn' t that hard to include!

Many people will not notice it, but if you arrange for the book to open at the cover on its first light, it is an extra sales tool that Brands your work and may help re inforce its recommendation to others!

A picture is worth a thousand words

A good cover is probably worth More!

JT
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 26, 2011 10:51 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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There's no blank space in my ebooks. Typically they open at a frontispiece, title page, or table of contents, whatever has the most impact.

There are no sales lost by the absence of a cover within the book. The sale has already been made. As JT points out, the product image on the Amazon store is what sells books.
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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 4:03 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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I've been getting cover image and product image mixed up as the same thing.

Yes I think you could probably do without a cover image tho having it there wouldn't do any harm if it's no cost or hassle to include but of course you definitely need a product image for your listings, sales page on your site etc.

Has anyone used fiverr.com to get ebook product images done?
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Posted: Oct 27, 2011 4:21 AM   in response to: daxxus386 in response to: daxxus386
 
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with the new Kindle Fire, I see a cataloge of book covers on the screen (in their ads) used in the personal library I'm assuming they extract these from the book itself. In which case, having a cover inside the book will be essential.. Better safe than sorry.


As for me, my dog Max, on the cover, is so winsome, that I love to share her as much as possible!


Carol Ann Newsome

A Shot in the Bark (A Dog Park Mystery)

Available only on Amazon, at the Kindle Store

steelcurtain68

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Re: How many files to upload? (newbie)
Posted: Oct 27, 2011 5:54 AM   in response to: shaddamax in response to: shaddamax
 
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There are a lot of ways to do publish on KDP so you get a lot of different answers, in all cases you only upload two files. That's all you can upload as there are only two upload boxes on the Bookshelf upload page. One file is always the store cover image that shows up when you browse on Amazon, it has it's own upload input box.

The other file can be a zip file with all the files needed to make your project, as people have said on this thread you can upload a zip of your html file and it's associated images. I have never used this method so I won't comment on it.

The best way (IMHO only) is to make a complete book using Kindlegen, Mobipocket, or Calibre and upload that. This method has the advantage that you can load the file on your Kindle, Kindle Previewer (which also shows you iPhone and iPad devices), and Kindle for PC and see exactly what it is going to look like in each reader. The file you upload is the same as Amazon is going to sell except for a couple bits (DRM and source code).

If you are interested in going this way look on my book website and download the example files. There is a zip file there with a complete project that you can build a book with using Kindlegen. With this method you get all guide items and the ncx navigation map.

Cheers,
Charlie Reese
Formatting and Conversion service, you get a mobi file with all the trimings.
The price is buying $12 woth of my books plus some efforts (you choose what) to promote my books.
Contact: charlie@library4science.com
Visit: http://weekly-book-bargains.com/gallery.html Examples and Guidlines for Word

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