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Joseph M Erhardt

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Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 17, 2017 9:57 AM
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Obviously not a question I dare ask over at the GR site.

I've run three giveaways so far, and I can't directly attribute any sales or borrows to any of them (though there may have been 1 or 2). I did receive one or two GR reviews out of the giveaways, but those and $6 will get me a nice frappuccino at Starbucks.
Jonathan B

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Posted: Mar 17, 2017 10:25 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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I've done three giveaways, and except for one review, I can't say that I saw much benefit.
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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 17, 2017 11:16 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Back in the day, when I published my first book, I got two reviews from giving away three books. These days, I see no benefit whatsoever.

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Joseph M Erhardt wrote:
Obviously not a question I dare ask over at the GR site.
It's been asked in several groups on GR, actually, and the answer is always the same: no verifiable benefit.

Edited by: writerbn on Mar 17, 2017 3:12 PM
gwythyr

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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 17, 2017 11:52 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Absolutely no benefit from my last giveaway - I didn't even get a single review on GR. Eight new followers but they might just have been trying to boost their chances of winning!
Rob Hackney

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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 18, 2017 6:46 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Nope, just a few more people adding my books to their "to read" lists.

Oh... and one winner put her signed copy straight on eBay. That was grateful of her.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 7:18 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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In a word, no. I did one about four years ago and had nearly 200 people put the book on their 'to read' list, but as for a boost in sales or reviews, nope.
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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 7:34 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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I think it's like anywhere else: people want free stuff. That's pretty much it. They'll sign up for anything, if they get a freebie out of it. I think it probably worked a lot better a few years ago, before everyone jumped on free and the give stuff away bandwagon.

Personally, I do get a few sales/pages read when I announce a new book in the group I'm in. It's not a lot, but it's free, takes no time, and I enjoy letting people know what I've got going on. I'm in the group as a member first, and an author second. One thing I've noticed is a lot more authors coming in and doing R4R, give aways and the like.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 7:38 AM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
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Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
In a word, no. I did one about four years ago and had nearly 200 people put the book on their 'to read' list, but as for a boost in sales or reviews, nope.

Actually, that "to-read" list is bogus. When you sign up for a giveaway contest, the option to "add to your to-read list" is, by default, checked, and that's how that value is driven up. It's artificial.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 10:10 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Joseph M Erhardt wrote:
Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
In a word, no. I did one about four years ago and had nearly 200 people put the book on their 'to read' list, but as for a boost in sales or reviews, nope.

Actually, that "to-read" list is bogus. When you sign up for a giveaway contest, the option to "add to your to-read list" is, by default, checked, and that's how that value is driven up. It's artificial.

Darn, another illusion shattered. I thought it might be something like that.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 1:33 PM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
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Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
Joseph M Erhardt wrote:
Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
In a word, no. I did one about four years ago and had nearly 200 people put the book on their 'to read' list, but as for a boost in sales or reviews, nope.

Actually, that "to-read" list is bogus. When you sign up for a giveaway contest, the option to "add to your to-read list" is, by default, checked, and that's how that value is driven up. It's artificial.

Darn, another illusion shattered. I thought it might be something like that.

After I ran my first giveaway on GR, I took a look at random pages of those 800 or so who put my title on their "to-read" list.

First, nobody had a to-read list of under 100 books.
One guy had a to-read list of 40,000+.

That made me investigate. I entered one giveaway (as a reader) and immediately spotted the problem. GR could fix this in a number of ways, e.g.: Limit the to-read list to the most recent 200 additions. Don't pre-check the "add to my to-read list" option when someone enters a giveaway, etc. Ah, well.
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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 18, 2017 1:57 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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Joseph,

I have been doing Goodreads Giveaways for years. I offer a couple of books at least once a month. It appears that romance is big on GR and history has readers too. (I have two series in both those genres.) I think the giveaways help to build a reputation. It is hard to track any connection to sales but it all adds up to something. It is a rather passive way to market but I'd rather spend my money on it than ads. At least someone gets something. The reviews come in and they encourage me. Or let me know where I'm lacking. The thing is... I have my heart in it (giving away a few paperbacks a month). It makes me feel really good inside. There's this cherishing thing going on. I have never commented on a review. I appreciate them all because they inform me. About the readers, their tastes, etc.

It's a slow process (Goodreads) but I am holding steady and developing a little following. That's all one can hope for.

It is expensive but not too bad. Like I said, It feels good to me. Really good.

Offering free ebooks through Select. Makes me cringe. Does not feel good. But I appreciate the opportunity to do Countdowns. Use them, every three months. I think they help.

Before anyone presents a giveaway, they should look and see if Goodreads readers are represented in the genre you write in. We want them to sign up for the giveaway because they LOVE that genre. Otherwise... they'll trash it with a bad review.

I have had a couple of people strongly dislike two different novels. But others loved them. Collectively, the Goodreads participants are fine folks who give me lots of breathing room to be myself. They sometimes read my blogs. They frequently give me good reviews (encouraging... makes it worth the money I spend) and they are starting to "follow" me. I assume to get notice of my giveaways.

Like I said... works very slowly. But doesn't steady win the race?
Melinda Clayton

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 6:06 PM   in response to: acornwriter in response to: acornwriter
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Acornwriter, I've had a very similar process and experience over the years. I haven't done one in a while (distracted by other things), but reading your post makes me think I need to get back out there and do another one.
Charles O'Donnell

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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 19, 2017 11:12 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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I'm on my third giveaway. The first one was a success. The second one was a bust. Since hope has a habit of trumping experience, I'm going for it again.

Shredded

Hope that helps.

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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 20, 2017 5:22 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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I've done three giveaways on GR and have never received one review as a result. Yes, lots of to reads, but not reads as a result. One person had 40,000 odd to reads on his list. I reckoned that would take a good decade of his life at 24 hours a day. Seems a ridiculous system. And you can star rate from here to Kingdom come without so much as a by your leave or anything to show the book has been read. On my last giveaway the reward was to receive one star ratings in one hit on every one of my nine books from one person. Even for a book that hasn't been available for some time. In fairness, I pointed out the serial attack, reasoning how strange someone would get as far as reading all my books if perhaps they didn't even like the first two or three, and GR looked into it to discover suspect circumstances. In the event the account and the ratings were removed. Goodreads is a good resource, but needs to be more vigilant in its monitoring. At the moment anyone can serially rate individual books with one or five stars endlessly for whichever motive, good, bad, or indifferent without an eyebrow being raised.
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Re: Has anyone ever seen any direct benefit from a Goodreads giveaway?
Posted: Mar 21, 2017 2:39 PM   in response to: resteasy in response to: resteasy
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I had a similar experience. After trying to promote my first book on GR a bit, I had one person give my book a 1* review, and when I checked their other reviews it turned out they had rated about 20 other books on the same topic 1* only (and not rated anything else at all). Made me wonder if they either had a bias against the topic, or happened to be a spiteful author who wanted to bring down anyone else writing about the same thing. I reported it to GR, as it was obviously unusual, but they told me there was nothing they could do about it as anyone was free to rate a book, and the person hadn't written any actual reviews, so there was nothing objectionable about it.

I've run two giveaways, without any noticeable bump in sales or even author follows. Hundreds of "to reads", which may or may not increase the visibility of my books. Over the years, I've gotten a couple of reviews on GR for each of my books, but only one of them was directly from a giveaway.

I will likely do another giveaway in advance of the release of my next novel, just to raise awareness and perhaps snag someone's interest, but I'm not holding my breath for any noticeable outcomes...
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