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divorcedoctor

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vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 7:33 PM
 
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A question for the CokerNuts that hang around this forum.

You promote Smashwords Guide and "services" here and one would HOPE that such a conversion would work properly for a Kindle book although there is no statement ever to such effect.

My question is for books like we format ie EXACTLY as specified in AMAZON Guide for KINDLE, will they work for Smashwords Bookstore, assuming there IS one, and if so, does anyone sell books on SW as well as Kindle?
birdhouselights

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 7:46 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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The formatting for Kindle and Smashwords is not the same. This is just my experience I had one of my books on both Amazon and Smashwords. Do pretty well with sales on amazon. At least selling pretty steady each month. On Smashwords, I have NOT SOLD ONE BOOK. That includes, the other formats that smashwords has set me up with, NOT ONE BARNES AND NOBLES, NOT ONE ITUNES, or any book for the NOOK. When Amazon offered me to join in the lending library, as long as I take my book off of any other site Ie.. smashwords, I left smashwords as fast as a speeding bullet. That site did nothing for me, but cost me a lot of work to get my book formatted with them.
andresanthomas

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:25 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I'm going to assume you're asking a serious question despite the snarky and hostile way you asked it.

The formating is slightly different. Not radically different (at least with a simple straight forward document, I have no experience with lots of pictures or charts and graphs). I used the Smashwords directions and had to make one small adjustment to my indents, then I was good to go on Kindle. I am a long, long way from a tech expert. I would admit I am a complete Luddite. I found the Smashwords directions very user friendly. I'd say that's the biggest draw to their directions over anyone elses.

Smashwords does sell books directly and if your upload meets their standards, they will also distribute it out to multiple other booksellers on your behalf. The benefit is that many of those other booksellers do not care to work with individual authors and small publishing companies, so Smashworks acts as an umbrella on your behalf. You can choose which of those you want them to put your work up on or not. They are not your publisher or editor, they are your distributer.
inyun

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 8:33 PM   in response to: birdhouselights in response to: birdhouselights
 
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I have six titles here at Amazon and the same six at SW. I pay Bryan Coker thirty to forty-five dollars a manuscript for formatting. I have never had any problems being accepted into SW premium catalog or at Amazon.

It is worth the money to not have all the headaches I read about with problems with formatting

I have sold on Apple, Sony, Diesel, Smashwords, and Barnes and noble.

I do believe that SW standards are different because they are doing epub as well as mobi and other formats.

Amazon is responsible for the bulk of may sales.

I am uploading my seventh title tomorrow.
divorcedoctor

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 9:22 PM   in response to: birdhouselights in response to: birdhouselights
 
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The formatting for Kindle and Smashwords is not the
same. This is just my experience I had one of my
books on both Amazon and Smashwords. Do pretty well
with sales on amazon. At least selling pretty steady
each month. On Smashwords, I have NOT SOLD ONE BOOK.
That includes, the other formats that smashwords has
set me up with, NOT ONE BARNES AND NOBLES, NOT ONE
ITUNES, or any book for the NOOK. When Amazon offered
me to join in the lending library, as long as I take
my book off of any other site Ie.. smashwords, I left
smashwords as fast as a speeding bullet. That site
did nothing for me, but cost me a lot of work to get
my book formatted with them.

that is exactly as I suspected sales wise, ie SW is a waste of time and effort.

HOWEVER my question was vice versa, ie a new customer of mine is hot to trot to format for kindle but has been taken in by all the CokerNuts at places like this so has asked me IF I do a KINDLE conversion EXACTLY as Amazon says, then can he upload that to SW.

I didn't KNOW the answer as I have no interest in formatting for a loser system, but as "the customer is always right" or WAS - see Falling Down I was asking question on HIS behalf.

So far the other answers have been the other way around, ie it MIGHT work on Kindle if formatted via CokerNut Guide "but you will have to change ..... (list of 101 exceptions)" - nardy dardy

so thank, you get a partial star but I would still like to know the answer
to my question and not just more propaganda from CokerNuts
vlgallas

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 9:39 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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@DD

I tried to format one title in that meatgrinder repeatedly, though to no avail, so the formatting is definitely not the same as for Kindle. As far as I am aware, SW ebooks are in EPUB. The same title has no issues whatsever in B&N, which is also EPUB.

I have heard that there is little money publishing on SW from many different directions. If you're looking for an alternate place to publish for a customer, I would recommend Google ebooks which is also EPUB, but you can upload a PDF.
inyun

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Re: vice versa?
Posted: Jan 23, 2012 9:50 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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Hi Vigallas

You are right about the money not being at Smashwords BUT they have helped a lot of Amazon writers get their start. I never said Smashwords was making me a lot of money but it did make it simple for me to publish.

I just uploaded my seventh title ten minutes ago at Smashwords. It was published in less than two minutes. I have checked both the mobi and epub versions and have found no problems.
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