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Matt Govan

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Word Produced Ebook
Posted: Sep 21, 2017 12:27 PM
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Hello everyone,

So I can see that a lot of people have asked the same question that I am about to. But... I haven't seen any definitive answers..

Q - What should the page settings in Word be in order to produce an ebook;

Page size width - ?
Page size height - ?
Right and Left Margins - ?
Top and Bottom Margins - ?

(I realise that it is possible to upload any word file, page size. But I would like to be able to see what it looks like in Word rather than this trial and error approach I have been doing so far.)

Thank you..

Matt
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Posted: Sep 21, 2017 3:44 PM   in response to: Matt Govan in response to: Matt Govan
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Matt Govan wrote:
Q - What should the page settings in Word be in order to produce an ebook;

Page size width - ?
Page size height - ?
Right and Left Margins - ?
Top and Bottom Margins - ?


I think most use 6W x 9H at least for a paperback.
Margins: It varies. I'm sure others will reply.
An ebook is a different character. No page numbers for starters as it is free flowing.
booknookbiz

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Re: Word Produced Ebook
Posted: Sep 21, 2017 5:10 PM   in response to: Matt Govan in response to: Matt Govan
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Matt Govan wrote:
Hello everyone,

So I can see that a lot of people have asked the same question that I am about to. But... I haven't seen any definitive answers..

Q - What should the page settings in Word be in order to produce an ebook;

Page size width - ?
Page size height - ?
Right and Left Margins - ?
Top and Bottom Margins - ?

(I realise that it is possible to upload any word file, page size. But I would like to be able to see what it looks like in Word rather than this trial and error approach I have been doing so far.)

Thank you..

Matt

Matt:

I'm sorry, but you're not going to be able to see, in Word, what your Kindle book will look like. If you really want to, then, sure, make the page 3.5" wide, with a .25" margin all around (top, bottom, r/l) and 4.75" tall. That will give you an approximate view. However it still won't really look or function like an ebook, because it won't reflow, readily, like an eBook. It can, of course, if you change the font size, but it's so quickly done in Word that you shan't get the sense of it.

You would be better off either buying a nice cheap 2nd-hand Kindle, or a cheap new one, and buy/download an ebook that you want to read. Alternatively, upload your Word file, nd look at it in Previewer, online. (You can also download the Preview MOBI and open it in the downloadable Desktop Previewer, if you prefer.)

There really isn't anything that you can do to "emulate" your ebook on Kindle. Forget margins, forget running heads and footers Forget page numbers. Focus on the body text, and the chapter heads. That's what you can control.

Good luck.

Hitch
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Matt Govan

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 1:38 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Hi Hitch,

Thank you very much! That's exactly the answer I was hoping for.

Superstar.

Best wishes,

Matt
Matt Govan

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 1:40 AM   in response to: Matt Govan in response to: Matt Govan
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Thank you for your replies everybody.. very helpful. I shall try them out and see..

Are there any other things that I should be aware of when typing away?

Did I see something that you shouldn't be using the return button to add paragraphs before uploading it?
Notjohn

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 3:07 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Focus on the body text, and the chapter heads. That's what you can control.

To Hitch's excellent advice, I would add a third thing you can control: keep the paragraphs short! Unless you are a devotee of Marcel Proust, you do not ordinarily see paragraphs that extend over a full page, but this often happens in ebooks. I have always like to vary paragraph length (and sentence length); it can give a nice rhythm to one's reading. So I was dismayed, when I translated my backlist books to Kindle format, to discover how LONG most of my paragraphs appear.

A more generous use of the Enter key, I think, has been the greatest effect of Jeff Bezos upon my life.... Well, that and the size of my mailbox.

(Use CreateSpace for paperbacks; use KDP for ebooks.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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booknookbiz

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Posted: Sep 22, 2017 5:01 PM   in response to: Matt Govan in response to: Matt Govan
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Matt Govan wrote:
Thank you for your replies everybody.. very helpful. I shall try them out and see..

Are there any other things that I should be aware of when typing away?

Did I see something that you shouldn't be using the return button to add paragraphs before uploading it?


No, no, god no, yes, of course, you use the return key, to create a new paragraph. What you should NOT do is use an extra return, to create a blank line between paragraphs, and if you can, use Styles to create the first-line indent in your paragraphs--not TABS. Tabs bad. Extra returns, bad.

Good luck.

Hitch
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Notjohn

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Posted: Sep 23, 2017 3:13 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Extra returns, bad.

Well, not bad so much as futile ...

The lads (they must have been lads) who built the internet were terrible typists, so they decided to ignore any tap of the space bar beyond one, and the same with the Enter key. You can tap away all day, but you'll only ever get the one.

u(Use CreateSpace for paperbacks; use KDP for ebooks.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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William Thompson

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Re: Word Produced Ebook
Posted: Sep 24, 2017 6:30 PM   in response to: Matt Govan in response to: Matt Govan
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In answer to your questions:

Page size width - ? ************* page size width is irrelevant in a reflowable ebook
Page size height - ?************* page size height is irrelevant in a reflowable ebook
Right and Left Margins - ?****** right and left margins are irrelevant in a reflowable ebook
Top and Bottom Margins - ? *** top and bottom margins are irrelevant in a reflowable ebook.

Using the enter key breaks for spacing is also taboo for an ebook. You should be using Word paragraph styles to format all text, headings and spacing in your doc.

This therefore necessitates that you must format your ebook correctly in Word. I would therefore strongly urge you to have a serious read of the Amazon Kindle Publishing Guidelines (free download from the internet) before you attempt to format your ebook in Word. Learn the formatting rules first before you jump into the fire.

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