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Wes Gunton

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Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 2:25 AM
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How do you advert & promote your book for free i've live for a year & have only sold 4 books
I have tried social media but never seems to work

Edited by: Wes Gunton on Nov 26, 2017 5:46 AM
writerbn

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 4:50 AM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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Unless you're referring to social media promotion, free advertising is generally worth exactly what you pay for it (in my experience).

Search the forums for "advertising" or marketing and promotion. There are thousands of discussions.
Southeasterly M...

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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 7:15 AM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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Explain what you have done on social media and which platforms you have used and I might be able to offer you some tips to improve or point you in the direction of some good articles
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 8:24 AM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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Wes Gunton wrote:
How do you advert & promote your book for free i've live for a year & have only sold 4 books
I have tried social media but never seems to work

Edited by: Wes Gunton on Nov 26, 2017 5:46 AM

Unless you have $$$$$ to market like the big boys, social media is all you have. If you have not in a year established a significant social media presence, then your efforts have probably been half-hearted now-and-then tweets, Facebook posts and blogs that did not require you to step much out of your comfort zone, or reach into your pocket. A year of intensive, almost full-time self-promotion in all social media venues (which includes direct-market sites like BookBub) is just the beginning; once you've achieved a credible presence, then you must work harder than ever to keep from sinking out of sight. It's not easy, it requires more dedication than writing, and while it may not cost you $$$$$, it will cost some $. Invest nothing, get nothing. Of course, before you invest anything, even time, make sure you have something worth promoting -- most indie writers think they do, but they don't. If you've truly only sold four books in a year's time, a close and objective review of your product is overdue.

Southeasterly M...

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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 10:36 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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Yes, you have have got to keep at it with the social media marketing especially Facebook and Twitter, otherwise your posts and tweets will be quickly forgotten
Mrs Julia Evans

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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 10:38 AM   in response to: Southeasterly M... in response to: Southeasterly M...
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Southeasterly Macon wrote:
Yes, you have have got to keep at it with the social media marketing especially Facebook and Twitter, otherwise your posts and tweets will be quickly forgotten

Do you really think that people here are so stupid they don't know that?
Wes Gunton

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 11:22 AM   in response to: Southeasterly M... in response to: Southeasterly M...
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Exactly that that shared on facebook, line etc etc all public domain but no takers i thought i'd be rolling in the money lol. It is for fun but again, a serious adult genre probably doesn't appeal to people, unless i need to put more into the write up?
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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 11:38 AM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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If your book is "Blackmail: Detective Samantha Benson #1" you have typos in the blurb and "your" when you should have "you're" in the first paragraph ("Jason I'm sure your old enough ..."), so it needs a very good edit if you hope to sell more copies.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Posted: Nov 26, 2017 12:03 PM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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Wes Gunton wrote:
Exactly that that shared on facebook, line etc etc all public domain but no takers i thought i'd be rolling in the money lol. It is for fun but again, a serious adult genre probably doesn't appeal to people, unless i need to put more into the write up?

Wes,

Before you spend a penny on advertising, or even another second of your time, you genuinely need to go back and take drastic action on your book.

The blurb is awful, and doesn't even make sense. Yes, it needs more, but it also needs to be better.
Your cover is dreadful, and tells us nothing about the genre your book should be in.
Your Look inside reveals no copyright page, no dedication and no table of contents (which in the e-book should be hyperlinked).
You also have to look at the way you've written your story - not just to edit out typos and grammatical problems, but specifically the way you have multiple people speaking within the same paragraph. It makes the whole thing very difficult to read.

You might have written a fantastic story, and one which should take the world by storm, but unless you go back and work on your manuscript/cover etc, nobody will ever find that out.

Sorry if all that sounds harsh, but if you want to get more sales, I'd start there, and let Face*book and Twit*ter wait until you're ready.

Good luck. J
Jessica Mondrou

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 12:22 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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😂😂

If you want to really get social media marketing going you need to basically have a network or profiles and sites. Multiple Tumblr blogs, etc. It takes time to build up profiles and pages that look organic, and it can't just be all about your book.
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 12:48 PM   in response to: Jessica Mondrou in response to: Jessica Mondrou
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Jessica Mondrou wrote:
😂😂
If you want to really get social media marketing going you need to basically have a network or profiles and sites. Multiple Tumblr blogs, etc. It takes time to build up profiles and pages that look organic, and it can't just be all about your book.

Says the woman who runs a website about teenage girls wearing diapers? Excuse me if I don't visit one of your 'adult' websites to look for further pearls of wisdom!

This isn't an 'adult publishing space'! It's a community for authors who self-publish their own books, most of whom, coincidentally, happen to be adults.

That's an entirely different thing!

Possibly you got off the bus at the wrong stop?

Jessica Mondrou

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 7:19 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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Hostile much? Not sure what your problem is, I was agreeing with your post, but it seems that you were the one to get off on the wrong stop...

While I do think that Wes needs to take a step back, Twitter and Facebook are only going to go so far. There are many more 'web 2.0s' out there that can provide valuable traffic to drive sales of his book (once the underlying issues are addressed).

As far the content I write for.. I have found a niche that people are willing to pay for, and it has worked out nicely for me so far, so I must know something..
C. Gold

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 26, 2017 11:26 PM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
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What Julia said in a nutshell. I'm actually impressed you got some sales given the various formatting, grammar, cover, and blurb issues mentioned. You need editing help in a major way or find a friend who knows enough to assist. Also, I'd recommend studying the format of other books out there (popular ones) to see how they do dialog. Each time the person speaking changes, the dialog goes on a new paragraph so people can follow the conversation easier. And you need commas... lots of commas...
Wes Gunton

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 27, 2017 12:15 AM   in response to: bobperrett in response to: bobperrett
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I blame the shitty spell & grammar check it put your when i wrote you're
allan dudson

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Re: Free advertising
Posted: Nov 27, 2017 12:32 AM   in response to: Wes Gunton in response to: Wes Gunton
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Yeah spell checker is not to be relied upon.
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