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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 5:28 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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Go to the forum page and enter 'Smashwords' in the Search box over on the top right. You'll get over 240 posts about Smashwords. I'm sure that all your questions will be answered. Enjoy. :-)
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 6:11 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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If that was ever a double edged sword of advice, I've never seen the Sword Excalibur beyond the movies. You tickle me!
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 6:18 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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No, Smashwords doesn't lower the price. It is a great way to get your books distributed to Apple, Sony, etc. Saves a lot of work, in my estimation.

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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 6:47 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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Of all the sites my books are available through, Amazon is the only one that's ever lowered the price. It's called pricematch. HTH Will
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 6:50 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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One poster that came on-board late, left with a cryptic remark about price. You deserve better than that. That's why I'm here.
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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 7:10 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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The ability to generate discount coupons makes it easy to give away free review copies easily. Also, SW makes it easy to download versions of your book in every file type.

I sell almost nothing through SW but I still think it's worth the trouble to put my book there. Though I think it's important NOT to use them for sales through Amazon or B&N
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 7:31 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]If that was ever a double edged sword of advice, I've never seen the Sword Excalibur beyond the movies. You tickle me![/i]

It's always interesting when an OP comes back and completely alters a post after you've responded. Some boards block edits after the first response is made. I almost always copy the post in my message to prevent later confusion. I neglected to do so this time and the OP changed the post after I answered, this time asking specific questions.

I do get a little tired of seeing the same post over and over again by newbies too lazy to do a little investigation on their own. So many of the questions have been answered dozens, if not hundreds, of times before. And when a poster asks something like, 'Can someone tell me everything there is to know about Smashwords?', I'm going to point them to the search function every time.

As to your comment: 'If that was ever a double edged sword of advice...',

I don't have a clue what you mean.
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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 8:27 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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There is no con to Smashwords if you want to distribute your book to the places Smashwords distributes to. They do the distribution for you which is really nice, because a lot of those places won't deal with an individual author (or make it really difficult).

If you're in Kindle Select, you cannot have your book out on Smashwords at the same time. Other than that, there's no downside.
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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 22, 2012 9:38 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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Scribbir, I did not come back after you had answered my question and add more questions. You simply did not read the entire post. Glasses maybe?
Anyway, I sent you an email, thanking you for your suggestion about doing a search. You were absolutely right, I should have done that at first.
I have now gone through over a hundred posts now about Smashwords, they answered some of my questions. I won't bother you with the ones not answered.
By the way, if it annoys you to answer questions that have been asked so many times before--why do you?
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Posted: Mar 22, 2012 10:44 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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[i]Scribbir, I did not come back after you had answered my question and add more questions. You simply did not read the entire post. Glasses maybe?
Anyway, I sent you an email, thanking you for your suggestion about doing a search. You were absolutely right, I should have done that at first.
I have now gone through over a hundred posts now about Smashwords, they answered some of my questions. I won't bother you with the ones not answered.
By the way, if it annoys you to answer questions that have been asked so many times before--why do you?
Alison[/i]


Perhaps you missed this little line on the post. It shows that you [i][b]did[/b][/i] edit the post:

[i]Message was edited by: ablake29[/i]

Memory lapse maybe? Missed your medication? Yes, I can be rude also, or did you think you were being funny. If so, it's accepted practice to use a winking smiley face. That way we know you're joking. ;-)

When someone asks a simple straight forward question, I will usually answer it, even if it's been asked a thousand times before, as many have. But when someone ask a broad question, such as "Tell me the pros and cons about using Smashwords, I point them to the search box. You can usually acquire a hundred times more information from searching through the previous posts than you can by asking a complex question here. Most members will ignore them, if it's not an issue near and dear to their heart, and others many only give pithy answers. The info I see in the other posts here only scratches the surface of what you can learn from past posts.

If you have specific questions, ask them, but don't ask general questions and expect lengthy answers.

Finally, a lot of people refer to Smashwords as SW, so that's another search expression can use.

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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 5:54 AM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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You don't have a "clue" what my remark meant? You caught my drift. I know you did. Ironic that you would think that such a childish ploy would entice me to explain to you, what you already know. Think again.

By the way, you're obviously on the wrong side of Divorce Doctor. That's basically between you two. This time I'll watch the Colossus Of Rhodes battle the snake headed Medusa from the comfort of my PC.. I always enjoy a good laugh! Thanks.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 6:51 AM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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I published my first 2 collections of short stories simultaneously on Amazon and Smashwords. I thought SW was cool b/c it distributes to lots of retailers (once you get in their Premium Catalog, which just requires following their fomatting guide). Once my first story was live, I had 3 sales almost immediately through SW. None through Kindle. But since then (a month or so later), my Kindle sales have surpassed SW.
Note, I have not had that many sales, period.

But my new plan for the novella I plan to release very soon, is to publish first on Kindle, and try out the KDP Select program (something I haven't done yet). I'll have to refrain from publishing on SW while I'm in Select. If it goes super well, I'll probably stay in Select and not do SW at all. But after the 3 month period in Select, I may at that point publish on SW, just to get it out to more avenues and potential readers.

Another pro to SW that initially attracted me is they give a higher royalty rate, regardless of price. You can price 99 cents on SW and get 80% royalty, I believe. They don't have the 2 separate categories like Amazon does, with 35% and 70%. So you DEFINITELY keep more of your profits through sales via SW. BUT, it seems Kindle has more buyers/readers, so it seems most people have more success selling throgh Amazon.
That's why I will likely do both...after the Select period is over. :)

-Sarah
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 9:29 AM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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[i]I get 200 email posts a day in this forum and MOST are of no interest to Kindle matters - so I will report your post in the hope of culling the spam back a bit[/i]

It wasn't my post. Report all you want.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 9:38 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]You caught my drift. I know you did. Ironic that you would think that such a childish ploy would entice me to explain to you, what you already know. Think again.

By the way, you're obviously on the wrong side of Divorce Doctor. That's basically between you two. This time I'll watch the Colossus Of Rhodes battle the snake headed Medusa from the comfort of my PC.. I always enjoy a good laugh! Thanks.[/i]

You must be related to DD. Both of you talk in circles and both make ridiculous references. The only difference seems to be that he hates ANYTHING American, and you only seem to hate the current Administration. There are days when I believe you are the same person. Today is one of those.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 10:33 AM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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Hi everyone, Thank you all for your answers, both long and short. In general this is what I've learned from both this thread and the searches I did for smashword on this forum (thanks for reminding me about the search option I too often forget its existence).
Anyway,(1) most people (unless they're really sold on KDP select) seems to think Smashword is is good selling tool because of its reach. (2) most seem to agree that they sell much more on Amazon than through SW but there are a few who says they do much better with SW, especially B&N, (3) apparently it can be a long wait to get your books off SW if you decide to go with KDP select. (4) A number of people (who have a lot of books,says they use both. Mostly going from KDP after sales have slowed, to SW.
Frankly it seems to be something of a coin toss but as my books come off KDP select's 90 days I think I'll try SW for some of them.
Alison
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:07 AM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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You can believe what you want. That doesn't make you or your confusion relevant.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 11:27 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]You can believe what you want. That doesn't make you or your confusion relevant.[/i]

With every post you support the idea that you're DD sailing under false colors. Say, this Darcy Chan author you promote at every opportunity wouldn't happen to be one of Dum Dum's cover customers, would she? I'm beginning to see a pattern here.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 2:36 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I don't want this one to slide by. You mentioned that I have disparaged Mr. Obama's administration. He doesn't have one. He has a Regime and it is populated by commissars. Since you seem to appreciate good questions, I have a few for you.

You didn't know he has a Regime? In that case, exactly what planet are you from? Moving along for the sake of revelation. You've exposed yourself. For such a supposed writer with so much in sales to brag about, you don't know about Darcy Chan? I believe that you are a fake. The only "pattern" you're beginning to see is an old LSD flashback.

I've forgotten more about good writing than you and your ilk of trolls will ever know. By the way, for such a high production writer where do you find the time to submit over 2,000 posts? As I mentioned, you are a fake. Live with that. Thanks.
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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 3:29 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]I don't want this one to slide by. You mentioned that I have disparaged Mr. Obama's administration. He doesn't have one. He has a Regime and it is populated by commissars. Since you seem to appreciate good questions, I have a few for you.

You didn't know he has a Regime? In that case, exactly what planet are you from? Moving along for the sake of revelation. You've exposed yourself. For such a supposed writer with so much in sales to brag about, you don't know about Darcy Chan? I believe that you are a fake. The only "pattern" you're beginning to see is an old LSD flashback.

I've forgotten more about good writing than you and your ilk of trolls will ever know. By the way, for such a high production writer where do you find the time to submit over 2,000 posts? As I mentioned, you are a fake. Live with that. Thanks.[/i]

You once said to me that you weren't concerned with semantics. All of a sudden you seemed to be concerned with semantics. Do you ever tell the truth, or only say what's convenient?

Why should I know anything about a writer that I've only read about in your posts? You've said that she has received dozens of rejections. What serious writer hasn't? You've spoken about how many 99 cent sales she's had. Big publishers want to know that an author can sell books at $6.99 and up, so perhaps they didn't feel that she had that kind of appeal. For her, this might be the perfect way to go.

I can appreciate that you've forgotten much about writing. Every post you make proves that, and I don't care if you believe me to be a fake. I'm not here to impress you. At least I've posted my links at times, unlike you. Which one of us looks more like a fake? I think that if you're not DD, then you're the publicist for Darcy Chan, and your only goal here is be accepted as a writer so that you have an excuse to promote her book at every opportunity. I've never seen anyone else promote someone's else's book and never their own. That spells fake all the way.

Go ahead and prove me wrong. Post your links.

No, I thought not. You can't list what doesn't exist.

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Posted: Mar 23, 2012 3:37 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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[i]I get 200 email posts a day in this forum and MOST
are of no interest to Kindle matters - so I will
report your post in the hope of culling the spam back
a bit[/i]

It wasn't my post. Report all you want.


I replied to you as I was agreeing with you that OP should search, but rest of post was to OP ie should not be talking to SW here

sorry for any confusion
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:27 AM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I've clearly stated my valid reasons for not posting links. Apparently you missed the boat. I'm not going to post links so that trolls can disparage my works because as cowards they can't deal with the truth. You talk about impressing people? I couldn't care less if anyone in this forum or any other reads my books. I write them for general distribution. Get it?

Every time you open your big mouth disparaging Darcy Chan you fortify your ignorance. I've only cited her as a prime example of what an indie can accomplish over the old legacy publishers. Once again, get it? That's your sad ego in a nutshell and your bad opinions are a barrel without a bottom. Not to sound redundant, get it?

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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:50 AM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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To return to the OP's topic: "(3) apparently it can be a long wait to get your books off SW if you decide to go with KDP select."

You can use the contact us link up at the top of the SW pages to speed that process up.

Put a link to your book from each site, and ask them to expedite the removal of it from the partner sites.

I just did that, and it took about 4 days total (Apple was the last to remove it). Much faster than waiting 2-4 weeks for it to be removed.

Then I ran a Google search for that title to be certain, and opted it into the Select program.

The whole thing was pretty painless. :)
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:09 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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Why not drop all of the pain and drop the idea of Smashwords to begin with? I also learned this lesson the hard way but never again. For sure I will continue to make a few mistakes here and there but I try and keep them small. The big ones make a much stronger impression. That's why I rock, including my books!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:26 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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32% of my sales in 2010 were though SW & partners. 28% in 2011, and already 19% this year.

Amazon may be the larger sales producer, but I'm not willing to cut out roughly 30% of my sales every year, especially not over sending a simple email. ;)
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:37 AM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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Percentages aside for the moment. A little bird tells me Smashwords is headed for the dust bin of history. Chirp! Chirp!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:46 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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Why so anti-SW Sarge?
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:58 AM   in response to: brassones in response to: brassones
 
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Don't know if this is Sarge's reason, but a lot of people go anti-SWs because they don't see huge sales through there.

Amazon has such a huge customer base, and the Kindle, that sales for just about everyone tend to start rather quickly here.

Not so at the other sites, and SW doesn't have a 'huge' customer base, itself. But it does have easy access to other, larger retailers (some of which you can't get onto without going through SWs).

Which I bet you know about, Brassones, but for those who don't. ;)

FYI, Smashwords has outsold Amazon at least 2 months a year for the past two years for me. It tends to be the largest portion of that 30% I mentioned above.

It IS very hit and miss. I can go a month with no sales, then have a truckload of sales the following month, only a few the month after that, and then once again, a month with no sales.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:37 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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Sarge, Scribblr is not a fake. I've seen the series, and all the books sell well. There are hundreds of reviews on his books. Will he receive the Pulitzer someday? I doubt it, but his books sell, and he is making big bucks.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:40 AM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]I've clearly stated my valid reasons for not posting links. Apparently you missed the boat. I'm not going to post links so that trolls can disparage my works because as cowards they can't deal with the truth. You talk about impressing people? I couldn't care less if anyone in this forum or any other reads my books. I write them for general distribution. Get it?

Every time you open your big mouth disparaging Darcy Chan you fortify your ignorance. I've only cited her as a prime example of what an indie can accomplish over the old legacy publishers. Once again, get it? That's your sad ego in a nutshell and your bad opinions are a barrel without a bottom. Not to sound redundant, get it?[/i]

You're a fake hiding behind a false excuse for not posting your links. You come here and snipe at real authors and then run back to hide in the woodwork like a cockroach. You can't show links because you have none. Every time you post here you prove that you can't write even a simple, coherent message, much less a book. It's time to put up or shut up. Either prove you've actually written something or crawl back where you belong. Get it?

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Re: Pros and cons of Smashwords?
Posted: Mar 24, 2012 11:10 AM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I don't mean to get in the middle of this argument, but I agree that people who won't give the title to their books are most likely frauds. I would rather get a couple of bad reviews than to have people think I am a liar. Besides, books with only good reviews look fake too. Bad reviews sometimes tempt buyers to see which reviews are right.

So if I say I have ten great reviews on Smashwords, you don't have to take my word for it.

https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/69564

Kindle page -- http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B003XSYENA
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 12:14 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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You're the one crying about me picking on you and then you start back up on me. Don't trifle with me lady. You jumped into this thread a day late and a dollar short.

As for you scribbler, you'll take anyone for a helper. What's up with that? Can't you fight your own battles. Especially the ones you started?
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Now I know who you are! I was having lunch with some friends in a Chinese restaurant in Fort Lauderdale a few years ago. We were discussing the abject failure of Lib radio and this guy at another table sitting before a big bowl of Chinese noodles took umbrage with our self evident truth.

He ranted on and on about the efficacy of Lib radio until another patron walked over and dumped the entire bowl of soup over his head! The event reminded me of the time Lily Damita dumped a plate of noodles over Errol Fylnn's head at Garmin's in Hollywood.

The other factor that made me remember of you was how the noodle freak then started crying about what a great writer he was and in some Persian bizarre manner, he demanded that everyone prove to him that they could also write. He wanted book links, among other things. So that's it. You're the noodle freak! Get it? Thanks.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 12:40 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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In my experience, Smashwords makes it almost impossible to control prices because Kobo and Diesel discount and are slow to respond. Plus the books seems badly formatted, and I find I can't control that either, unlike with Kindle and Nook. I still have some books up on the Apple iBookstore, but since one can't link directly to them, thanks to Apple's closed universe, I don't bother listing them on my website.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 12:51 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]As for you scribbler, you'll take anyone for a helper. What's up with that? Can't you fight your own battles. Especially the ones you started?[/i]

If you look back to the beginning of this thread, you'll see, as everyone else can, that you came after me first. For anyone to say I started it is an indication of dementia.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 12:55 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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You're getting testy. "Dementia?" Do you mean I'm nuts? "Are you talking to me?" "Are you talking to me?"
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 12:56 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]Now I know who you are! I was having lunch with some friends in a Chinese restaurant in Fort Lauderdale a few years ago. We were discussing the abject failure of Lib radio and this guy at another table sitting before a big bowl of Chinese noodles took umbrage with our self evident truth.

He ranted on and on about the efficacy of Lib radio until another patron walked over and dumped the entire bowl of soup over his head! The event reminded me of the time Lily Damita dumped a plate of noodles over Errol Fylnn's head at Garmin's in Hollywood.

The other factor that made me remember of you was how the noodle freak then started crying about what a great writer he was and in some Persian bizarre manner, he demanded that everyone prove to him that they could also write. He wanted book links, among other things. So that's it. You're the noodle freak! Get it? Thanks.[/i]

The dementia seems to be getting worse. Take a hike you wanna-be. You've obviously never written a book in your life. Do you enjoy hanging out with real writers? Does it give you a thrill to pretend that you are one?
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 1:13 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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Children! Children!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 1:18 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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All but Kobo were supposed to have stopped discounting, other than doing as Amazon does with the price matching.

"Effective December 1, 2010, no Smashwords retailers are allowed to discount your books, unless they're price matching a lower-priced competitor (Best practice: keep your prices consistent).

Kobo may still discount titles for sales transacted outside the US and Canada for currencies other than US or Canadian dollars."

ETA: However, I don't like Kobo. They take the longest of any of the retailers to update changes. I'm talking MONTHS, not weeks.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 1:19 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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Sarge, I agree with your dislike of Obama and the Lefties, but Scribblr probably sells more books than anyone here. I don't get this crap about people here being fakes. Why would anyone want to post here unless they are writers? Of course there are the spammers trying to sell formatting or editing services, but other than them, why would anyone but writers want to post here? This is getting to be like two men at a bar and one says he's a veteran, and the other calls him a liar. The next thing you know, they are demanding each other's MOS and who was their XO and CO and where and when did they serve and "show me your VA card!" Yap, yap, yap.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 1:27 PM   in response to: thetimucuan in response to: thetimucuan
 
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[i]Sarge, Scribblr is not a fake. I've seen the series, and all the books sell well. There are hundreds of reviews on his books. Will he receive the Pulitzer someday? I doubt it, but his books sell, and he is making big bucks.[/i]

I've never entered a writing contest, and have no desire to do so, so my chances of winning a Pulitzer or any other writing contest are pretty much nil. My fan mail contains all the accolades I need (not counting my monthly royalty checks). :-)
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 3:27 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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gldrummond, if you sign up with Smashwords is it possible to opt out of Kobo?
Thanks, Alison
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 4:19 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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Yes, you can. :)

I opted out of Kobo for the reasons I gave above, as well as out of Sony and Diesel (lack of sales).
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 5:15 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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Interesting, because I was contacted by two Kobo readers letting me know that one of the books in my series was missing. The bad news is that four books were missing, but the good news is that two people were reading them. I contacted Smashwords and they are reshipping the missing books. I don't sell many on Sony or Diesel, but I want my books available just in case they catch on in a big way. I just wish the sales reports were more timely. SWs has to wait to be paid before we can get paid and quarterly seems like a very long time.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 5:30 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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You're a fake hiding behind a false excuse for not
posting your links. You come here and snipe at real
authors and then run back to hide in the woodwork
like a cockroach. You can't show links because you
have none. Every time you post here you prove that
you can't write even a simple, coherent message, much
less a book. It's time to put up or shut up. Either
prove you've actually written something or crawl back
where you belong. Get it?

agreed, but also for ALL those that brag, brag, brag about their "top selling books" but use the old bin Laden WMD excuse for never posting a link, or EVEN stating the genre, ie no purpose at all being here
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 5:34 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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You know Hitler sold a lot of books and he wrote only one. So I'm not going to lay down and roll over for the "scibbler", or whatever he calls himself. Granted, he may not be a total "fake" but he is a complete punk.

What else can you determine from his constant rants, getting more and more ridiculous each time that I'm not a writer. I have 18 books uploaded on Amazon and 15 Library of Congress Copyrights. For the one millionth time, I'm not going to release my pen name, links, titles, or anything else to bring the trolls down on me.

The "punk' doesn't have to worry about what I know he would do. I won't submit any negative review, no matter how pathetic the author's work truly is. The basic difference is, I have class. I always have had "class!". That's what really sticks with the "scibbler:", or whatever he calls himself.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 5:41 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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"Agreed?" You're as sick a puppy as scibbler. Don't try and play people off on one another. You've got more personal baggage than the Titanic. There isn't anything worse than a manipulator. Get it?

Just thinking about you gives me the creeps and "I've been there and done that!" You want proof? Pee into the wind you outback creepy crawler. You're all wet. Get it?
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 5:52 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]You know Hitler sold a lot of books and he wrote only one. So I'm not going to lay down and roll over for the "scibbler", or whatever he calls himself. Granted, he may not be a total "fake" but he is a complete punk.

What else can you determine from his constant rants, getting more and more ridiculous each time that I'm not a writer. I have 18 books uploaded on Amazon and 15 Library of Congress Copyrights. For the one millionth time, I'm not going to release my pen name, links, titles, or anything else to bring the trolls down on me.

The "punk' doesn't have to worry about what I know he would do. I won't submit any negative review, no matter how pathetic the author's work truly is. The basic difference is, I have class. I always have had "class!". That's what really sticks with the "scibbler:", or whatever he calls himself.[/i]

You must not know what class is because with every post you prove that you don't have any.

If, in fact, you had that many books, you would not have to worry about a bad review or two. You're a fake, like those people who get arrested for impersonating a police officer. They're not intelligent enough or sane enough to make the grade, so they dress themselves up and pretend to be something they're not. I doubt that you have even one book, and if you did, it would surely be poorly written if your posts are any indication of your abilities. No, there are no books. You're a total fake. You're even incapable of remembering my ID here. Guess that's the dementia again.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:04 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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This entire thread has gone B.A.N.A.N.A.S.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:12 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I spelled your I.D. correctly, even if you can't. Ignorance is no badge of education. You are filled with the venom of insults bordering on hysteria. You've got your shorts all in a twist. "If" I'm such a poor writer, I've sure got you fired-up. What's up with that, hotshot?

After-all, with your immense intellect it only stands to reason that you would have moved on long ago. Here's the skinny. You're a psycho without a clue. I'm on to you like stink on ice. Sticks doesn't it? Keep it up. I'll contact Amazon. You're trolling. There's no excuse for that, regardless of book sales. Think about it. You're riding the edge and you brought yourself to it.

You should get kicked off the system and put your books in a push cart and roll them around in your village of idiots. Tell them what a great force you are. Maybe someone will listen. I'm tuning you out. Bye.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:38 PM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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KDP Select is the most wonderful opportunity in world history to sell books. The other venues are simply pretenders and they are falling by the wayside.This particular Forum is also truly wonderful, when we can get past the trolls with all of their vindictive tense.

I have succeeded in both writing and selling books, although I don't brag about numbers. I don't post on this thread to sell my books. That's me. At times, I face brutal attacks from wicked people. that demand all manner of proof positive, testimonials, links, ad nauseam as if I really care what they think. Yes, they are hurtful. Some people dedicate their entire life to hurting other people. Nazis come to mind. Be that as it may, you have to make your own decision on which venue to pursue. Good luck!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:51 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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Well, I wish you much better luck than I had at either site.

It's kind of funny, since Diesel claims to be 'the biggest ebook store' or something similar, and always has.

I dislike having to wait so long for sales reports too, and wish Smashwords would pay monthly, regardless of when they receiving partner payments.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:53 PM   in response to: christopherruz in response to: christopherruz
 
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A distressingly high number tend to.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:57 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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"Not I", opined Farquhar. I'm glad to see the voice of reason returning to this thread. I've had my hands full with "you know who". Now we are finally back on track to develop something positive and beautiful, almost poetic.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 6:59 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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There would be no need to 'have your hands full' if you guys would just ignore each other. ;)
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:05 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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That works for me. In fact, it is! Thanks.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:21 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]I spelled your I.D. correctly, even if you can't. Ignorance is no badge of education. You are filled with the venom of insults bordering on hysteria. You've got your shorts all in a twist. "If" I'm such a poor writer, I've sure got you fired-up. What's up with that, hotshot?

After-all, with your immense intellect it only stands to reason that you would have moved on long ago. Here's the skinny. You're a psycho without a clue. I'm on to you like stink on ice. Sticks doesn't it? Keep it up. I'll contact Amazon. You're trolling. There's no excuse for that, regardless of book sales. Think about it. You're riding the edge and you brought yourself to it.

You should get kicked off the system and put your books in a push cart and roll them around in your village of idiots. Tell them what a great force you are. Maybe someone will listen. I'm tuning you out. Bye.[/i]

Fired up? I'm not fired up. I'm simply giving better than I got. You're proof that it doesn't take a good writer to insult other people. Even a wanna be author like you can do it. Perhaps no one else will stand up against your pathetic tirades, but I will.

You're on me like stink on ice? That doesn't even made the slightest bit of sense. But okay, you win. I'm ice and you stink.

You've been insulting me for days and now YOU'RE going to contact Amazon?

The dementia is getting worse, isn't it?
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:39 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I have a correction to make. I decided against contacting Amazon. I enjoy reading your rants. Besides, a great author such as yourself is certainly someone I can learn from. For example, forgiveness. That is to say, I forgive you. I feel your pain. I understand. Peace!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 7:59 PM   in response to: sargeking in response to: sargeking
 
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[i]I have a correction to make. I decided against contacting Amazon. I enjoy reading your rants. Besides, a great author such as yourself is certainly someone I can learn from. For example, forgiveness. That is to say, I forgive you. I feel your pain. I understand. Peace![/i]

Ah, they finally showed up with your medication, eh? Good.

You started this thing, and YOU forgive me. Interesting. But even more interesting is that a confirmed Liberal basher like yourself is pretending like he's Bill Clinton, the ultimate Liberal.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 8:05 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
 
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I'm so relieved to see that you're meeting me on an equal footing. I simply shine in your greatness. Liberals? Will Rogers said, "I never met a man I didn't like!". You make me all "goose-bumply". Thanks bunches!
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:16 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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"but I agree that people who won't give the title to their books are most likely frauds"

I don't post links to my books here because I've never felt that it's the proper venue to do so in. But then again, it's not difficult for anyone to find them if they feel like it, since I use my name as my forum handle. :)\

ETA: I'm not criticizing anyone who does, but speaking of my own personal feelings about doing so with my work.

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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 9:45 PM   in response to: gldrummond in response to: gldrummond
 
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It's a toss up between not sounding like a bragger and letting people know success is possible. I stopped giving numbers, although I admit it is tempting. It's those that brag about numbers and then don't back them up, that makes me think they are not being honest.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:00 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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Ah, gotcha. I don't brag about my numbers because they're nothing to brag about. :)

General sharing (like what percentage are sold through where, or return averages, that sort of stuff), sure, I'll do that all day long because it's info that might be useful to someone.
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Posted: Mar 24, 2012 10:02 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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[i]It's a toss up between not sounding like a bragger and letting people know success is possible. I stopped giving numbers, although I admit it is tempting. It's those that brag about numbers and then don't back them up, that makes me think they are not being honest.[/i]

New authors have told me that they want to hear the numbers. They want to know what's possible. It gives them an incentive to work harder to achieve their own personal dream. :-)
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I definitely fall into the 'wanting to know success is possible' category, so love hearing about others' numbers.
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I AGREE ! ! !

THIS MAKES TERRIFIC COMEDY!
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Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:16 AM   in response to: ablake29 in response to: ablake29
 
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I made my first sales on SW. But they were/are very few. I like the wide distribution feature but of what practical use is it if there are no resulting sales?

The biggest negative about SW I discovered only lately: their 5MB limit on .doc file size is inimical to graphics-intensive books. I cannot publish my two latest projects on SW simply because they only take .doc and my .doc files are well over the 5MB maximum size. KDP does not have a maximum file size limitation that I know of. Unless SW eliminates or otherwise upgrades the minimum .doc file limit, I cannot see how they will ever pose any serious competition to KDP....
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Posted: Mar 26, 2012 10:47 AM   in response to: merlinthemad in response to: merlinthemad
 
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Direct your attention to the latest blog post at Smashwords (go to SW, and hit the Site updates. The blog link is in the first entry showing).

Not certain it's okay to post the actual link here. ;)
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Posted: Mar 26, 2012 11:25 AM   in response to: merlinthemad in response to: merlinthemad
 
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Every new ebook seller, like sony and iPad is like starting over in Kindle. Most won't buy right away, it takes time and word of mouth. Now that many people read on their iphones, our sales possibilities are endless. However, there are readers who do not prefer Amazon for one reason or another and chose another store to buy from.

I just want to make sure they can buy my books wherever they want. You never know when a book will "take off" in a big way, and I figure I'm ready if and when mine do. It doesn't cost anything, so why not? I am such a dreamer.

My author page -- http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B003XSYENA
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Posted: May 17, 2012 3:39 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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notjohn, according to Smashwords "Effective December 1, 2010, no Smashwords retailers are allowed to discount your books, unless they're price matching a lower-priced competitor (Best practice: keep your prices consistent). Kobo may still discount titles for sales transacted outside the US and Canada for currencies other than US or Canadian dollars."

My site has links to my Apple ebooks, which opens in the iTunes preview mode. Clicking on the blue "View in iTunes" button opens iTunes and you can buy my ebook or ebooks.
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