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Franchesca Tatel

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Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 1:23 AM
 
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Good day. I have 32 KENP Read and 3 Units Free- Promo, have it earned a penny?
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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 1:25 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Franchesca Tatel wrote:
Good day. I have 32 KENP Read and 3 Units Free- Promo, have it earned a penny?

You have earned under .16 cents (under 16 US pennies).
Franchesca Tatel

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 1:34 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Oh thanks. But the .16 UsD doesn't reflect on the Reports Tab? Where will it reflect and when can I receive the penny, would it be at the month end or a couple of months after?
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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 1:38 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Franchesca Tatel wrote:
Oh thanks. But the .16 UsD doesn't reflect on the Reports Tab? Where will it reflect and when can I receive the penny, would it be at the month end or a couple of months after?

Payments are made 60 days out from the end of the month. That makes December sales payable at the end of Feb.
You will not see a total for the pages read until the total of pages read for everyone is known along with the amount of the fund. Just figure under one-half of a penny per page.
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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 1:45 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Alright, thanks a lot!
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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:01 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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The 3 Free Units-Promo also earned a penny even if it's so called "free"? 3 free copies meaning, they had the book for free without paying any penny? And the .16 USD cents is only from the 32 KENP read right?
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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:07 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Franchesca Tatel wrote:
The 3 Free Units-Promo also earned a penny even if it's so called "free"? 3 free copies meaning, they had the book for free without paying any penny? And the .16 USD cents is only from the 32 KENP read right?

You make NO money off of free books.
Yes, the .16 is from the 32 page reads (KENP).
Franchesca Tatel

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:13 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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I am thinking that without the 3 free copies, there would also be no 32 KENP read? Or even with 0 free copies, there will still be a possibility of KENP counts?
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Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:18 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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They are two different things. You can give your books away for a few days. Meanwhile, they can be read by people who subscribe to Kindle Unlimited, the library service.

Personally, I don't do either of these things. I would much rather have my books for sale on Barnes & Noble, Apple, and other online bookstores.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:19 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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The free copies have no connection to KENP. You receive KENP payment for books that were borrowed via Kindle Unlimited. Free books earn you nothing.
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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:20 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Franchesca Tatel wrote:
I am thinking that without the 3 free copies, there would also be no 32 KENP read? Or even with 0 free copies, there will still be a possibility of KENP counts?

It is two different 'programs'.
Free is offering a book free of charge. For Free.
Page reads is the KU program.
Franchesca Tatel

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:32 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Oh, so KENP can produce a count even with zero free copies promo unit? Like we have a ratio of 3:32; and 0:32 is a possible thing?
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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:49 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Hello Notjohn, so is it better if I'm not into these 2 programs, like it will be better if not enrolled to any of such, like it will earn more pennies without these two?
Wilai Lattimore

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 2:57 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Is this a wind-up. Maybe going for the craziest thread of 2017. You have my vote.
MR R J LAIDLER

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Re: Earning
Posted: Dec 31, 2017 3:17 AM   in response to: Franchesca Tatel in response to: Franchesca Tatel
 
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Franchesca Tatel wrote:
Hello Notjohn, so is it better if I'm not into these 2 programs, like it will be better if not enrolled to any of such, like it will earn more pennies without these two?
Given your only earnings are from Kindle Unlimited (KU) then I suggest you leave the book in there for a while. If this is your only book then the strong consensus on here is not to give it away. You earn nothing from a giveaway.
You also don't earn anything from KU until the reader does just that, starts reading your book. The reader's Kindle (or whatever they are using) sends back information on the number of pages read and this is what you are seeing with the KENP figure. A couple of months later this figure is converted to a monetary value and you get paid. It's a bit more complex than that (for example, KENP does not translate directly to physical pages) but I hope you get the idea. There is more information available and you could try searching on here for discussions on giveaways (don't) and the merits or otherwise of KU.
My suggestion would be to start writing another book - the more you publish the more you are likely to earn.
If you are feeling brave post the ASIN code of your book here. Not to promote it but to get feedback on your cover for example. Some of us will be gentle but don't expect false praise. If there are faults you can expect folk to point them out. :)

Edit: I think I've found your book - it's poetry which everyone on here says doesn't sell very well. Also your price is very high so I suspect you won't get any sales and only KU borrows. Leave the price as it is but dropping it to something like $4.99 or £4.99 or whatever might be sensible. An alternative way of looking at is if someone borrows it on KU then reads all of it, what would you earn? As it's about 150 pages then you might earn something like $0.70 for each book read cover to cover. This would equate to a sales price of around $0.99 assuming standard royalty rates. Why not try that price and see if it shifts any copies? :)
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