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chadcampbell

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martitalbott

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:22 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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How close is your book to the top now? I don't think 200 would put a dent in it, frankly. In March of 2010 my first book sold 1790 and was in the top 100 in Romance. That is not to say it hit the top 100 of all the genres. The next month, it slid to 1200 and eventually fell back off the top 100 in romance.

I know it sounds hard, but you have to wait for readers to start recommending your book to others. That's where the real gold is.
saxon21

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:24 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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It won't work. Amazon's algarithm will not count large sales from a couple of websites toward rankings. Amazon is wise to that tactic. They know it would subvert their system.
chadcampbell

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:32 PM   in response to: saxon21 in response to: saxon21
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Not websites I am saying simply get 200 people you know to buy your book at once. From what I read if you get that many sales in a day it would boost you up to the top 100.
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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:34 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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I imagine it is as effective as hiring people to give you good fake reviews. It might give you a spike, but in the long run, unless you really have a book people want to read, you are wasting your time and money.

You want to know how to make money self-publishing????

Stop playing games. Write good books. Create good covers. Hire an editor. Have more than one book.

While I have been self-publishing for years, I didn't start doing the ebook thing seriously until November of 2011. I now have over 30 titles under my various pen names and am making over $4,000 a month - not as much as some, yet more than others.

I don't solicited reviews.
I don't do the fake reviews.
The pen name that is doing the best, I do not promote, other than a blog that gets very little traffic.

But I write just about every day, at least 8 hours a day.

The plus, when I take a month off....I still make the money. I took off March, to spend the time with our daughter and granddaughter, who were visiting.

IMO those who approach this as a get rich scheme or easy money will not be here for the long run.
jeanetteraleigh

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:46 PM   in response to: robethpublishin... in response to: robethpublishin...
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Yay!! Another writer on the forum making a living doing what they love. It gives me hope and the assurance that I'm on the right path.
ericvonjed

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Posted: May 5, 2012 4:49 PM   in response to: robethpublishin... in response to: robethpublishin...
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You are correct. Readers are smart and will read what they like. Somebody else want to play games, that’s up them.
mollysnow

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Posted: May 5, 2012 5:01 PM   in response to: robethpublishin... in response to: robethpublishin...
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I wish the method of writing more would work for me and my small publishing company. I have a lot of hope in me, though, that something will take off. I believe I have good stories and I have received reviews, some solicited by book bloggers and some by strangers, and they come with good ratings. I've even had fans who were obsessed with my book BeSwitched.

How many books do you have to have out there before something does really well? I don't know, but I write and promote all the time; this is an obsession of mine. I look forward to it paying me one day.

Three more books will be released with my company within the next three months.

http://breezyreads.com
saxon21

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Posted: May 5, 2012 5:11 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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If you can get five people to do that I would be greatly surprised. Begging, pleading, threatening, conjoling, bribing, or anything else wouldn't get them off the couch long enough to do it. Of course if you put a beer near the computer you might stand a chance.

You are right about how the big six market. But they have the budget and the number of employees to do it.
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Posted: May 5, 2012 5:43 PM   in response to: saxon21 in response to: saxon21
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It won't work. You have to sell 1000 a day to be in the top 100.

Traci
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Posted: May 5, 2012 5:50 PM   in response to: tracihilton in response to: tracihilton
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Not according to amazon.
martitalbott

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Posted: May 5, 2012 6:09 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Why did you ask for advice if you didn't really want it. And what's with the profanity? Yuk.
chadcampbell

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Posted: May 5, 2012 7:27 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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I asked if anyone had any experience of knowledge of this happening. I've known of it happening with the New York times best seller's list. But when someone ignores the question at hand and says its about your writing clearly knows nothing about book selling because yes the writing is important but the difference between a best seller and a book that sits on a shelf is marketing, not writing. A terrible book that is well marketed will sell better than a good book that has no marketing.
tracihilton

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Posted: May 5, 2012 8:22 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Where did amazon say you could get to the top 100 with 200 sales in a week?

We have it on pretty good authority from an author who spent over two months in the top 100 that he was selling 1000 books a day while he was on that list.

I know back when there were fewer books for sale I made it to #233 the day I sold 100 in one day, but I was selling 50 or more a day and the book hovered at about #500 for a month, then went down to the mid #1000's where it stayed for quite a while. 50 a day times 7 days is 350 a week, so...200 in a week isn't enough to crack that top 100 overall list.

During that same time I was #78 in Fiction, mysteries, woman sleuths, so selling 350 or more a week for months on end (Nov '10 to March '11) wasn't even enough to get me very high in the top 100 for a smaller category.

If you don't mind sharing the source of your info I'd like to hear it.

Traci
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Posted: May 5, 2012 9:13 PM   in response to: robethpublishin... in response to: robethpublishin...
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Let's see- 30 titles written and published under various pen names since November 2011. That comes to 30 titles in 6 months or five titles a month. [b]You write and publish fast![/b]
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