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martitalbott

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I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 11, 2012 5:13 PM
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Someone put a tag under my first book on the UK site that says. "pagan avalon." When you click on it, the link takes you to a book with that name. My books have nothing to do with pagans, they are clean romance. I don't know how to get it off there and I don't see a place to report abuse. It would be different if it didn't imply that my book has something to do with the pagan faith.

Sheesh, what will they think of next? Like we don't have enough problems, we have to worry about authors using our bestselling books to promote their trash. I would spit nails if I had any.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003XF1E36
quiet_heart_press

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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 11, 2012 5:53 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Marti,

I'm sorry to hear about this. Though I don't remember every communicating with you, I have learned to respect your opinions and knowledge.

I can identify with your feelings. A few months ago I checked the tags on one of my books. There were several very bad things there. The nicest of the bad ones was "pig slop". I won't write the others. They were words not found in my vocabulary.

That book has been online here since January, 2008. I had many good tags, one of which was "recommended reading". That one had 34 "agrees". In the end, trying to get the foul tags removed, all the tags for that book were removed. Curiously enough, that book has never been reviewed. Go figure. It has also never been returned after purchase. Well over four years and no returns.

I check the book regularly, but the bad things haven't showed back up. We can hope your vandals have moved on, never to return.

David
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 11, 2012 5:56 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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By the way, I think you can click on "Do you agree with these tags?" and at least disagree with that tag.

There is a way to remove the tag, but I don't remember exactly how. I'll look at one of my books and run a test. If I discover something useful to you, I'll post that.

David
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Posted: May 11, 2012 6:10 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Marti,

I just checked on some books in the UK site. One of the books by an author Quiet Heart sponsors has a "cannibalism" tag, which, like your problem, has nothing to do with the book.

As my author's representative, I can do whatever with her books in the US store, but when I tried to make a change in the UK store, it blocked me out.

I will attempt to contact the Amazon International customer service department (they have a separate department to handle problems outside the US) and see what I can do.

If you do not have these numbers for Amazon customer service, here they are:

- U.S. and Canada: 1-866-216-1072
- International: 1-206-266-2992

David
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 11, 2012 6:24 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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I have had the same sort of vandalism on my books in Amazon UK since they opened the Kindle store. Though I can log-in and place tags on my own books they disappear in short time.
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 11, 2012 6:35 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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I was stupid enough to add my name to a peer tagging thread on kindleboards. It worked fine while people clicked the tags I added myself, however then some bright spark decided to add a few extra ones, and of course all the sheep kept clicking. My book now has 30 tags for elves and archers. It's science fiction. While I believe we should help each other, there comes a point when it becomes a hindrance. For the same reason I now avoid all those "let's like each others Facebook/twitter/blog" type threads.
antaeusq

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Posted: May 11, 2012 6:44 PM   in response to: headofwords in response to: headofwords
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headofwords, there's a valuable lesson in there somewhere.
headofwords

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Posted: May 11, 2012 7:02 PM   in response to: antaeusq in response to: antaeusq
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Indeed there is. I'm quite happy to help people out but from now on it'll be on a personal basis.
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Posted: May 11, 2012 7:22 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Marti, That really is infuriating. Too bad you can't go the the other book and add a tag that links back to yours. I did not even know those tags were links. I'll have to try the ones on my book--or maybe I won't.
This is really the first forum I've followed closely. Now and then I check out a few others. One thing that amazes me is how nasty and tricky some people can be. Just ordinary people (I assume they're not serial killers or anything like that). I'm not a Pollyanna by any means but it amazes me how quick people are to take offense from someone they know nothing about, usually not even their gender.
It amazes me how many people, and there must be a lot of them to cause so much damage, are willing to spike someone's work. Anonymity does not bring out the best in people.
On the other hand, some of the people on this and the other forums sound fascinating and funny and generous. But it's still dangerous out there.
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 12, 2012 12:04 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Hi Marti, I suppose I'm lucky but so far I've had no personal experience of your problem, but you have my deepest sympathy.
I think I saw another post of the same problem and somebody said it was possible to get rid of the tags by republishing the book. Before you go to that sort of measure though, maybe you can check with somebody who knows more about it than me. Whatever you do, best of luck with sorting the problem.
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 12, 2012 12:16 PM   in response to: hecky3 in response to: hecky3
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Thanks everyone. I think I'll contact Amazon and see if they will remove it. I hate to turn another author in, but what ever happened to honesty?
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Posted: May 12, 2012 12:26 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Okay, at the risk of sound ignorant, what are "tags" and how does one check them?
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 12, 2012 1:12 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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Intrigued by this post I checked the tags of my own books and found that someone has done the exact same thing on one of mine. They've added a tag to some book called 'Fiji: A Novel' to my novel about Marie Antoinette. How cheeky!

I don't think there's anything I can do about it but wow, that's a bit shoddy. I feel kind of embarrassed for them that they feel they have to resort to such grubby tactics to be honest. :)
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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 12, 2012 2:11 PM   in response to: mchelgrif in response to: mchelgrif
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Scroll down on your product (book) page and on the left you will find "tags." These are helpful in that you can give the reader more information on your book and help search engines find it.

Authors should do the first set of tags and be sure they are different from what's in your key words or you title. For example, you can put the name of a place such as Colorado, or the kind of book such as novella, short story, etc. Try to think in terms of what readers search for.

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Re: I've seen it all now...I am sooooo mad!
Posted: May 12, 2012 2:40 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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I feel for you, Marti. I hope it gets worked out. One thing I've noticed about tags, strictly in the UK, is that sometimes they seem to disappear altogether. There for a day, then gone. I have no idea how that works. On one of my titles someone has tagged it "alpha male" - there is absolutely [i]no one[/i] of that gender in the bloody thing. On another title, someone had tagged it having to do something with "strip chess" - I guess there was a bit of disrobing in the thing, but it certainly had nothing to do with chess. Odd, but then in a day or two it disappeared. The "alpha male" thing still puzzles me, of course. Best of luck with it!

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