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notjohn

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Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 2:56 AM
 
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Another poster expressed disappointment with the results of the Smashwords "meatgrinder". I felt the same way at the time (last fall) when I processed one of my books through Mark Coker's system. Yet the honchos at Barnes & Noble etc apparently find them good enough to put Smashwords books into their catalogs.

More to the point, that poster (I hope he or she will comment in this thread) worried that a badly formatted book reflected badly on the author.

Has anyone else gone through the meatgrinder? How did your book look in the various emulators such as Kindle for PC? Have you viewed your book on the B&N Nook, Sony Reader, or Apple iPad, and how did it look?

Thanks in advance!
carl246

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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 4:40 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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I've only been able to check them out on two devices, Kindle for PC and on my Ipod touch. Both look very good, so I have no complaints. I did think though that the way Smashwords wanted it looked messy. I was always taught in school to separate paragraphs, but they preferred it with the indentation method.

Ours in not to question why but to do or die. lol

Carl
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 9:55 AM   in response to: carl246 in response to: carl246
 
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They were flush left, ragged right, correct? Is that what you mean by 'messy'?

Single spaced, with paragraph indents?
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 5:28 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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The one title that I tried to publish via the Meatgrinder failed. The issue is with the endnotes. From what I read in the instructional book over there, the system doesn't like endnotes or footnotes. I just decided to skip it rather than delete the notes.

B&N recently advertised their new publishing service for self publishers and small publishers, and it should be up and running soon. They had previously stated June 2010, though the email I received yesterday stated "this summer". It is called Barnes and Noble Pubit (weird name, right?). Here is a link to the FAQ:

http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/pubit-frequently-asked-questions-self-publishing/379002234/

I read through it all and decided to skip it. People use Kindles for sharing enough, but your titles (any and all) published via B&N can be read for free (in entirety) if the person has the B&N app or a Nook and is in the store. To me they're throwing authors and publishers under the bus to grab their market share, and I'm not going to help.
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 15, 2010 6:14 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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They were flush left, ragged right, correct? Is that
what you mean by 'messy'?

Single spaced, with paragraph indents?


Yes, that's correct. It looked messy to me, but when I read them on my Ipod Touch they read perfectly so I didn't question it much. I'll do whatever they want me to as long as I get my work published. lol

I have to admit though I prefer block paragraphs, with no indents. Mark did tell me that that way was acceptable as well but that they prefer it the other way, so that's what I did.

Carl

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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 16, 2010 9:14 AM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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Thanks for posting the info about Pubut, Vicky. Very interesting. It'll be interesting to see if their Royalties will be competitive with Amazon's new 70%. I didn't see anything posted about it on the website.

Andrew E. Kaufman
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While the Savage Sleeps
Suspense/thriller now available on Kindle
vlgallas

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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 4:20 PM   in response to: drewdawg63 in response to: drewdawg63
 
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You're welcome Andrew. I have not read anything about the royalty split either, but imagine that they're attempting to be like DTP with Pubit (really weird name!). I really don't care for the Read in Store program though - they are trying to get people in the store by offering free reading of our titles. Next thing you know a person will be able to emulate a store presence and simply read every title in the program free.

I had someone email me just today requesting a free review copy of one of my books as they were unable to read it in its entirety on Google Books preview (supposed to be 20% readable). I checked the book in Google Book Partner Program and saw that 1 visitor the other day read 88 pages - much more than 20% as it is a 220 page paperback and 107 pages as a PDF, which is what was submitted to Google.

I don't know about you Andrew, but I don't want to give away my books so that B&N can gain additional market share - LOL.

Vicky
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 16, 2010 6:43 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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If I published my ebook with Kindle, can I still publish it on PubIt?

Thanks!
drewdawg63

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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 16, 2010 10:59 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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I know what you mean, Vicky. The internet has absolutely changed the face of publishing in a lot of ways--many of which are indeed very good. But like everything else, there is a downside, I suppose. The increased exposure is great, but at the same time, it can sometimes be a bit more than we'd like. I guess we have to take the good with the bad and hope that in the end, we're still better off!

Best,

Andrew E. Kaufman
Author, While the Savage Sleeps. A suspense/thriller
Available on Kindle
www.andrewekaufman.com
drewdawg63

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Posted: Jun 16, 2010 11:05 PM   in response to: refaid in response to: refaid
 
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I would think yes. All the other e-publishers allow authors to cross over among them. Can't imagine that they'd go against the grain and be any different.

Andrew E. Kaufman
Author, While the Savage Sleeps. A suspense/thriller
Available on Kindle
www.andrewekaufman.com
notjohn

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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 4:15 AM   in response to: refaid in response to: refaid
 
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[i]If I published my ebook with Kindle, can I still publish it on PubIt?[/i]

Yes, you can certainly pub-it. The agreement is non-exclusive. As far as I know, all e-book agreements are (Kindle, Smashwords, Lulu, Nook).
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Posted: Jun 17, 2010 5:50 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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The only exclusive ebook agreements you might make would be those with a publisher. All of those mentioned here, though, are essentially publishing services providers or retailers, and retail sales channels are almost never exclusive, with the possible exception of the iPhone and AT&T. Even Kenmore appliances have never been exclusive to Sears (you could buy most of them anywhere under a different label, and now they're apparently even selling the Kenmore branded models a few other places).
carl246

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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Jun 19, 2010 8:55 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Has anyone else gone through the meatgrinder? How did
your book look in the various emulators such as
Kindle for PC? Have you viewed your book on the B&N
Nook, Sony Reader, or Apple iPad, and how did it
look?

Thanks in advance!


I have mixed feelings about the Meat Grinder, I mean as long as you format your work correctly and how they want it, you shouldn't have any problems. It's the waiting afterward that Pi@@es me off. Take B&N for instance, they take eight weeks to get your titles up and running and in the four months I've been posting my stories I have just nine of my sixty six titles up at B&N.

The one I've fared the best with is Apple, they have all of my titles, at least as far as I know because I don't have an Ipad to check that one out.

For the past five weeks Kobo have had 61 of my titles and still aren't showing any on their site.

I saw that I had 3 titles showing over at Sony yesterday, which is promising, but I can't help wondering why only three when they took them all?

To say the process is frustrating is an understatement, but I keep waiting and watching and hope that one day I won't have to keep checking Smashwords to see what else has happened to my tales.

Carl
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 5:03 AM   in response to: carl246 in response to: carl246
 
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i published my book and nobody is buying what must i do
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Re: Using Smashwords as a route to Nook, iPad, etc
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 5:17 AM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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Barnes & Nobile "pubit?" You got to be kidding me. What birdbrain at B&N thought up that title? I can just imagine the jokes on the Net with that title. Just a little to close to "pubic" don't you think? Even when you say it out loud. I certainly hope the brain trust at B&N reconsider that title.
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