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punchygonzales

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Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 2, 2012 11:38 AM
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Obviously most internet forums are, and always have been, the Devil's playground for people with mental problems and bad intent posting under too many user-names to count. KDP seems to have more than its share whether it's people trying to boost their egos with a barrage of compliments about their own book(s) or trying to promote a formatting or editing business among others while asking questions under fake names and then answering themselves. I seriously doubt there are more than ten or twelve real people who ever post at these forums. I propose that you start showing the IP numbers of all posters and the city those IPs are associated with. Even revolving IPs will always be within a 30-mile radius. This would cause the number of fake posters to drop dramatically just as it always does when this action is undertaken at internet forums.

I hope you'll consider this process. At the present time, these boards are about as useless as a screen-door in the Antarctic.
inyun

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 3, 2012 6:50 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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Nice punch line. (No pun intended.)
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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 3, 2012 8:31 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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Can you even access these boards unless you've published through kindle? I don't think you can. Maybe I'm wrong?

But if it's true that Amazon is uploading something like 40K new books a week (can that be right? maybe it's a month?) either way it seems likely the boards will be flooded with new people.

And let's face it. You don't have to be smart or sane to read, review, or write books. But that doesn't mean you didn't really read, review, or write a book. :-)
punchygonzales

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 3, 2012 12:04 PM   in response to: joshlanyon in response to: joshlanyon
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Tom,

I was gonna say screen-door on a submarine but didn't want to be accused of plagiarism.

Josh,

I'm not sure what it may say in the TOS, but anyone devlish enough to do it can sign up with as many email accounts as they have. It's always been problematic in the VOTA forum, but lately the fomatting forum has been just as bad with people inventing user names and leaving questions about book formatting problems so they can show how wise they are answering them and flashing their business webiste name in the process. I'm not gonna name names because it's Amazon's job to keep this place clean, but they don't seem to have anybody that ever looks in on these forums. It's very easy to show IP numbers and even the cities associated with them. All forums should do that as standard protocol. Anytime I've ever seen a forum suddenly start posting IP numbers, the amount of posters dropped by about 75% overnight. If people aren't doing anything wrong, then they've got nothing to worry about. The only people who will protest this are the ones abusing the system.
kennydill

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 4, 2012 12:58 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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Yeah, but can't you just hide your real IP with TOR?
punchygonzales

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 5:51 AM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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Nope; proxies only work for surfing--not for posting. You have to have active scripting turned on in order to post here (and at 95% of all forums). You can't have active scripting turned on without exposing your IP#.
kennydill

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 7:12 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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I don't know what active scripting is... but if you can read this, that is pretty cool, because I am logged on thru TOR.



p.s. before I came here, I went to whatismyip.com and it said this: Your IP Address Is: 31.172.30.2
No Proxy Detected




p.p.s. am I missing something here?
punchygonzales

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 11:07 AM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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Tor, like virtually all these proxy websites, simply runs your browser packets through onion servers all over the country, and in other countries as well sometimes. Your IP will display whatever the IP of that onion server is. This works fine if you want to peek at your ex-girlfriend's blog to see what dirt she's dishing on you. Just reading web pages doesn't require active scripting. Participating in forums almost always does though. Both Flash and Java Scripting are full of security holes that will allow your box to get pinged quite easily. This forum uses Java Scripting. You couldn't post without it. There is a way or two around this, but most people probably don't know how to do it, and I don't want them to know.
kennydill

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 11:09 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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But I did it easily, and I'm not that bright.


p.s. LOL ... TOR is not a proxy website... it is a program... maybe you are thinking of something else... here's a bit the wiki has to say about TOR:

"Originally sponsored by the US Naval Research Laboratory,[7] Tor was financially supported by the Electronic Frontier Foundation from 2004 to 2005.[9] Tor software is now developed by the Tor Project, which has been a 501(c)(3) research/education nonprofit organization10 based in the United States of America[1] since December 2006 and receives a diverse base of financial support;[9] the U.S. State Department, the Broadcasting Board of Governors, and the National Science Foundation are major contributors.11"
punchygonzales

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 11:21 AM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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No, you didn't hide anything from this forum.

LOL? You're an idiot.

www.ipd.uni-karlsruhe.de/~buchmann/pdfs/burghardt08whyPetFail.pdf

Excerpt that even you can understand:

The TOR Project 31 provides a network of “onion routers” which anonymize the users’ IP address in Internet
communications. If an Internet user participates in the TOR network, the service provider sees only the IP address of
a randomly chosen onion router. Correctly applied, TOR can prevent that a provider learns the geographical position
of the user from the IP address or assigns web page visits to a certain individual. However, the usage of TOR is
difficult for users without technical knowledge. TOR CANNOT PREVENT THAT BROWSER PLUGINS REVEAL PRIVATE INFORMATION. ACTIVE SCRIPTING, COOKIES, AND IFRAMES POSE FURTHER PRIVACY THREATS THAT TOR USERS HAVE TO CONSIDER. FURTHERMORE, TOR DOES NOT ENCRYPT THE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE LAST ROUTER AND THE WEB SERVER.
kennydill

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 11:28 AM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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Well, first of all, I am logged in... ROFLOL



And I did post without revealing my IP... perhaps it is time for you to learn more about TOR?
punchygonzales

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Posted: Jun 4, 2012 1:07 PM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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Oi...kids.

"Well, first of all, I am logged in... ROFLOL"

Which has absoluetly nothing to do with anything. ROFLOLOLOLOLOL

"And I did post without revealing my IP."

No, you did not. idiot. LOLOLO>LOLOLOPLOJJOIHUGTYVYR%ET

Perhaps YOU should learn more about Tor and the other hundreds of useless proxies since you obviously don't know a damned thing. If you did, first of all you wouldn't have left any of the childish messages you just left, and second, you would have just found any number of proxy lists and pasted in the address and ports yourself instead of downloading an idiotic program to do it for you.
kennydill

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 4, 2012 4:47 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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I was laughing because you told me, "You didn't hide anything from this forum!"


Of course not, because I was already logged in. Get it now? LMAO! Besides, the fact that everyone has to be logged in to post here makes the thought of posting their IP numbers pretty absurd.


Just because you may not understand it, that does not make TOR an 'idiotic program'. It is actually a very clever program.... perhaps it is time for you to learn the value of anonymity?
punchygonzales

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 4, 2012 5:38 PM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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Kid, you are as clueless and green as a day old lamb. Tor did NOTHING to stop active scripting. If it did you wouldn't be able to post. How many times do I have to go over this very basic info with you? The fact that you're posting means that active scripting is in fact turned on, thus this forum now has your true IP in its log period.

Tor is barely even a program. It's not doing anything a first year programmer couldn't do in Visual Basic. It's simply gathering proxies around the net and placing their addresses and port numbers in your browser's LAN options--something anyone with half a brain could do themselves. It also probably has options pertaining to blocking cookies and active scripting--again somthing you could do in about 20-seconds. If it does have scripting and cookie options, you must have those options turned off. You simply could not post here if you didn't. That's the whole reason those options are there--so you can choose to leave them on for doing things like posting in forums. The foruma admin here knows exactly what your real IP and location is because of that scripting is turned on.

There [i]is[/i] a way to stop forums from collectting your real IP data (which I'm not telling), but a lousy proxy surf program isn't even in the ballpark of being able to do that. And truth be known, a web admin with a lot on the ball could always find a way to ping your box no matter what you did. There simply is no such thing as true anonymity with browsers.

Get over yourself and you might learn some things.
kennydill

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Re: Propose KDP Boards Start Posting IP Numbers
Posted: Jun 4, 2012 5:51 PM   in response to: punchygonzales in response to: punchygonzales
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How can I stay mad at you? You are just too precious!





Now get back to your Visual Basic homework, I don't want to keep you.






p.s. Who uses TOR?
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