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gldrummond

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 6:00 PM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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Good advice, Scribblr.

Congratulations, Lovely. I hope it's something that is a good deal if you decide to take it. :)
charlielange

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 6:37 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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I didn't really have a point. I just noticed that you were an actress and you had some sort of working relationship with Tarantino. Just made me think of that guy. He was so excited about "his big break", he jumped the shark and thought everyone would be buying his $120 pants because he was in one movie.

If there was any point it was the tired old phrase, don't spend it before you have it. Everyone wants a publishing deal but nobody wants the one being offered. I would take it, if only to gain a following through the promotion/marketing of said publishing house, but continue to self-publish things as well. This way you get some marketing, but you also earn more $$ through name recognition on your self-pubbed titles.

As always, best of luck.
kennydill

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 8:06 PM   in response to: charlielange in response to: charlielange
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I've partied with Tarantino. Not the light-weight you think he would be.
jm14

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 9:04 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Good for you. Enjoy.

Re: your attorney. If he or she does not specialize in literary properties or is not at the least an Intellectual Property lawyer, forgo his or her services for one who does or is.

Either an agent or a literary attorney has always been important, most especially for a first time writer, but these days (barring an exceptional and atypical agent; an increasingly rare thing), a literary lawyer is crucial. There is a great deal at stake here. You need expert counsel to protect your best interests in this. Current publishers' contracts are the worst, most aggressive and pillaging I have ever seen since I began publishing books (more than few decades ago).

Your standard lawyer, even a contracts lawyer, is not qualified to read or negotiate a publishing contract for you. Do get a literary lawyer, please.

Again, though: Enjoy. And again, congratulations.

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thetimucuan

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 9:10 PM   in response to: kennydill in response to: kennydill
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Isn't he a toe sucker?
1001nightspress

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 10:00 PM   in response to: jm14 in response to: jm14
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^^What jm14 said.

Get someone who's handled specifically fiction, and is up on e-rights.

It's a bit surprising that a publisher would offer so much money for a sequel when they don't own rights on the first book--which makes me suspicious. Your book hasn't earned close to $15,000 yet--on what are they basing this advance? What is it they think they're going to be getting down the road? How would this be a better deal for you than what you're already doing? Don't sign first-right-of-refusal clauses or non-competes or any of that stuff. But a good literary lawyer wouldn't let you.
kennydill

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 24, 2012 10:37 PM   in response to: thetimucuan in response to: thetimucuan
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Well, we didn't get toe-sucking high. Although I did make a stupid joke, and when he got back from getting rounds, he made the same stupid joke. Screw sales, that was when I knew I had made it.
rufuscobb

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: May 25, 2012 8:01 AM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Congratulations to you Lovely, I hope it all works out okay, but like others have said ... read the small print VERY carefully.

Rufus
lovelylace1979

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 1:14 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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I received the paperwork yesterday and have decided I will not be using them. The company is called Parker Publishing Inc. I made the decision based on the content in the agreement.

Lovely

notjohn

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 1:37 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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**decided I will not be using them**

Left $15K lying there on the table, yeah.
lovelylace1979

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Posted: Jun 12, 2012 1:38 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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It was not for me. I would be a fool to take it. Why don't you submit one of yours and see what you get offered.
lins777

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 2:05 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Oh dear...!
ghostlywanderer

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 2:12 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Do you go by a stage name? Because I looked up the Tarantino project on IMDbPro and didn't see a "Lovely Whitmore" credited at all. Are you working BG?
lovelylace1979

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 2:17 PM   in response to: ghostlywanderer in response to: ghostlywanderer
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No. My agent handles all of that. I don't have anything to do with that site at all. I have a few lines. Not a major role a small one. It should be updated soon, though I am not sure when or how long it takes.
writeranne

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Re: A publishing company offered me a $15,000 advance for the sequel
Posted: Jun 12, 2012 2:19 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Lovely,

In a former life, I was involved in the film and television industry. I held the office of President of the Florida Motion Picture and Television Association for 5 years during the 1980's, worked in the production end of many films such as Once Upon a Time in America, Robert Altman's Health, Summer Rental, Cocoon and several others, and I still maintain many contacts in the industry.

In talking with a S.A.G. member friend of mine who is on the production crew of Quentin Tarantino's movie, Django Unchained, I mentioned you and your part in the film.

He deals with the cast on a daily basis and had not heard of you as a cast member, but thought that maybe you act under another name. He emailed me a list of the entire cast, down to the last one-line actor complete with photos and sorry to say, I did not see you there. I compared the photos on his list to the photos of you all over your websites, but no match.

Since you mention "rehearsals with Mr. Tarantino and the fact that you'll make more money from the movie than the book,I had to assume that you had a decent speaking part and that you must be a S.A.G. (screen actors guild) member because this film is a SAG affiliated shoot. I also could not find you mentioned as a SAG member, so I'm a bit confused.

Here's the list from my friend over at SAG showing every single person who is a cast member on this film, both credited and not credited. Could you please explain why you are saying you are in the film, when, in fact, you are not.

I apologize for calling you out in public like this, but you chose to go public with a lie and I felt it should be addressed in public. Please stop representing yourself as something you are not. Besides, even if it were true, why do you feel you have to post it in these forums? It has nothing to do with writing books. You are not only lying to others, but to yourself as well.


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Leonardo DiCaprio ... Calvin Candie

Samuel L. Jackson ... Stephen

Christoph Waltz ... Dr. King Schultz

Kerry Washington ... Broomhilda

Jamie Foxx ... Django

Zoe Bell ... Tracker Peg

Franco Nero

Don Johnson ... Spencer Gordon Bennet

James Remar ... Ace Speck

Bruce Dern ... Curtis Carrucan

Walton Goggins ... Billy Crash

James Russo ... Dicky Speck

M.C. Gainey ... Big John Brittle

Tom Savini ... Tracker Chaney

RZA ... Thaddeus (rumored)

Dennis Christopher ... Leonide Moguy
Michael Bacall ... Smitty Bacall

Laura Cayouette ... Lara Lee Candie-Fitzwilly

Tom Wopat ... Marshall Gill Tatum

Rex Linn ... Tennessee Harry

Cooper Huckabee ... Roger Brittle

Gary Grubbs ... Bob Gibbs

Lewis Smith ... Jinglebells Cody

Sharon Pierre-Louis ... Little Jody

James Parks ... Tracker Catfish (rumored)

Ned Bellamy ... Wilson

Nichole Galicia ... Sheba

Shannon Hazlett ... Daughtrey Saloon Girl

Tenaj L. Jackson ... Pony

Erin Pickett ... Woman with Rifle

Danièle Watts ... Coco

Misty Upham ... Minnie

Evan Parke

Todd Allen ... Dollar Bill

Catherine Lambert

David Steen ... Mr. Stonesipher

Omar J. Dorsey ... Chicken Charlie

LaTeace Towns-Cuellar ... Cleo

Doc Duhame ... Ellis Brittles

Edrick Browne ... Joshua

Sammi Rotibi ... Rodney

Miriam F. Glover ... Betina

Kinetic ... Franklin

Glen Warner ... Slave Overseer

Dana Michelle Gourrier ... Cora

Monica Rene'e Anderson ... House Servant

Jarrod Bunch ... Banjo

Christopher Berry ... Willard

Justin Hall ... Goat farmer

Johnny Otto ... Dr.Brown

Carl Bailey ... Mandingo Overseer

Jake Garber ... Tracker Jake

Johnny McPhail ... Mr. Wigglesworth

Skipper Landry ... Cleo Master

Michael McGinty ... Cowboy
Elton LeBlanc ... Cleo Club Patron / Polly Wolly Singer

Escalante Lundy ... Big Fred
Edward J. Clare ... Plantation Owner
William Hudson ... Blueberry

Kim Collins ... Randy (uncredited)

Mike DeMille ... Cowboy (uncredited)

Richie J. Ladner ... Slave Master / Pedestrian (uncredited)
Cindy Mah ... Chinese Boy (uncredited)

Chuck Murphy ... Horseman 1 (uncredited)

Kel Owens ... Gallows Builder / Badass Cowboy (uncredited)
Matthew Parrott ... Slave Master (uncredited)

Timothy Pickles ... Smoking Cleopatra Club Patron (uncredited)

Craig Stark ... Pedestrian and Tommy Gilles (uncredited)

Louise Stratten ... Daughtrey Saloon girl (uncredited)

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