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inyun

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Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 10:45 AM
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This is the first month I have been able to download B & N sales as they occur.

My Amazon sales for June are about 5 for every 1 at B & N.

Anyone else which to share their current June ratio?

Thom
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 11:47 AM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Thom,

My June ratio at this point is 20 here to 1 at B&N. However, my Google Play sales are 2 here to 1 on Play. :)

Not sure why B&N doesn't work for me, but maybe this month will pick-up. Last month was my best month ever over there and the figure was 2 here to 1 at B&N.

I have seen a change in the last few days. My Kindle sales froze a week ago, but I am selling in Play and the ratio is now 1 to 1. A great pick-up for me!


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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:10 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Any of you sell at GoodReads? How do you do there?
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 12:11 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Five-to-one is about the same ratio I have, comparing Kindle to Nook. That said, I also find Kindle is more self-publisher friendly ... just compare their percentages to what B&N take. Ouch!
inyun

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:36 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Thanks for replies. I had thought about buying a Mac so I could directly publish to Apple, but B & N sales are so minor, Apple would probably be worst. I will let SWs handle the minor players.

Thom
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 1:50 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I do about 1/3 at B&N, compared to Amazon.

Bobbi

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I was wrong....my Amazon has really jumped the last month, now it is is about 1:4

Bobbi

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vlgallas

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:46 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I'm noticing that no one around here pays attention to Google Play. What's up with that?

I'm tellin' ya - I'm at 2 sales here to 1 sale over there. And my better selling book has an issue: It does not show on a search by title or a search by my name in Play and it's never included in the "other books by this author" list next to each other book there. I have tried every way I know how to get this fixed to no avail. Anyone buying that book can only locate it via the link from my blogs or website.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 2:56 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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I barely track Google Play. It's just been a huge disappointment relative to other channels.
For sales on Apple another option is Lulu. They're somewhat demanding, but once you're on you have a book whose formatting you can control more than on SW.
Curiously, I find that a lot of my sales on BN are through Lulu or SW, far less directly.
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Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:19 PM   in response to: chezjimc in response to: chezjimc
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I had removed all titles from Google months ago due to excessive discounting by one of their major resellers, but decided to try again because I missed the quick payments for sales. I have had the books back in Play since late February and sales are progressively better, especially in June, so far.

I have never published on SW, Lulu, or Apple though.
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Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:28 PM   in response to: chezjimc in response to: chezjimc
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How do you publish books on google play, thought that was only for software devs
inyun

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Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:32 PM   in response to: chezjimc in response to: chezjimc
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Are you saying you can use Lulu instead of SWs to sell at Apple?

One of my problems with SW is the inability to know the sales until weeks afterwards.

Thom
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:40 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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[i]Are you saying you can use Lulu instead of SWs to sell at Apple?[/i]

I know the answer to this one! It's yes. I am using Lulu for one of my books to get into B&N and iBookstore
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 3:59 PM   in response to: fantasybooks in response to: fantasybooks
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I have yet to see a month where I hit double-digit sales at B&N, even as I've hit triple digits in KDP. I have similarly miniscule sales at Smashwords. I can't figure it out. I know an indie author who does huge business at Smashwords and almost nothing through Amazon.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 16, 2012 4:35 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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It was about BN 50% of Amazon's as in 100 amazon 50 B&N. The gap appears to be narrowing to 100 : 80 But actually Amazon is dropping as B&N picks up. It's all about algorithms and serendipity. Algorithm is a mathematical term that I can't wrap my brain around. I know it has to do with (sic) discoverability and how Amazon uses the math of your sales data to push you toward the front of the line. Serendipity is just plain luck. Smashwords seems to be a distant 3rd. A book can sell 10,000 copies on the other channels but might only sell 100 directly through Smashwords. However Smashwords puts you in the house of Apple, Kobo, Sony, Diesel etc. It's important to be in the house. I've seen people say over and over they were going to remove their books from X because they aren't selling through X. Keep your books all over. Algorithms and serendipity change all of time. One day, month, or year, you're up at X and down at Y and vice versa.
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Posted: Jun 16, 2012 4:42 PM   in response to: c_har2u in response to: c_har2u
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I actually understand that. I am at SWs but I wanted to see real time sales so I published directly to B & N. Kobo, Sony, Diesel give you more exposure. Apple might become a larger player.

Thom
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