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vlgallas

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 17, 2012 12:53 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I will say that I never bother to look at those 6 week reports. I think they're confusing and useless. ;)
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 17, 2012 2:51 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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Let me say upfront that I have no idea why this is happening but it is. My largeest sales month was June of 2011. I suspect it was due to father's day and alot of males like sci-fy. May of 2012 crushed that number. Now june of 2012 is crushing May's number. I say again, I don't know why.

If I had to speculate, I published a new seies that had no connection to the original. Those books are selling huge at the moment. I also have twelve books out now where last June I just had four.

I don't spend time promoting...at all. I just announce a new book is live on facebook and contact those who have sent me emails requesting to know when a new book goes up. I operate on the theory that the best promotion is a new book. So far, that theory appears to be working.
chotii

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 17, 2012 11:35 PM   in response to: edwarddaniels in response to: edwarddaniels
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So far this month:

B&N: 82
Amazon UK: 12
Amazon US: 8 (of which 4 were my parents who got an e-reader)
Smashwords: 6

Beats me if I can understand it.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 10:10 AM   in response to: saxon21 in response to: saxon21
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[i]Let me say upfront that I have no idea why this is happening but it is. My largeest sales month was June of 2011. I suspect it was due to father's day and alot of males like sci-fy. May of 2012 crushed that number. Now june of 2012 is crushing May's number. I say again, I don't know why.

If I had to speculate, I published a new seies that had no connection to the original. Those books are selling huge at the moment. I also have twelve books out now where last June I just had four.

I don't spend time promoting...at all. I just announce a new book is live on facebook and contact those who have sent me emails requesting to know when a new book goes up. I operate on the theory that the best promotion is a new book. So far, that theory appears to be working.[/i]

Congratulations. That's great news. I'm glad that someone's sales are soaring. My best month ever was April 2011. I don't ever expect to beat that incredible sales month, but I keep trying.

Having numerous books available is one of the keys to success as a writer. Too many authors sit around whining that their one book isn't selling when they should be putting all their effort into writing. I would say that you need at least three novels or ten short stories to be accepted as a real author by the book buying public, who will then take your work more seriously when book browsing. If the book is stimulating to the reader, and has decent grammar, it will sell the others without further promotion. At least that's been my formula.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 10:42 AM   in response to: scribblr in response to: scribblr
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I agree that multiple books are the answer. I have 11 novels in a series and readers seem to come back to buy the other books as well. I don't promote much either, but I do have the first book free. The free one seems to draw in new readers daily.

Sales continue to drop in Kindle US, but rise in UK and B&N, so I have stayed pretty even for the last three months or so. Still looking for a little proofreading help especially with the older books. I have learned a lot along the way and if I go back and try to edit, I tend to rewrite, which opens the door to different errors. It's a vicious circle. Even so, the books keep selling. I guess readers are more forgiving than some of us give them credit for.

Guess I better get back to book #19.
My author page -- http://www.amazon.com/-/e/B003XSYENA
inyun

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 11:16 AM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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B & N 7

Amazon UK 5

Amazon USA 75
notjohn

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 1:06 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
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**I don't promote much either, but I do have the first book free.**

Giving away one book out of eleven is a clever tactic. Giving away one book out of one (or even two or three!) is foolish.

And if your giveaway is permanent, then you are using the price-matching dodge, not the freebie/promo feature of Kindle Select. I wish that would die a sudden death. You would probably benefit as much as I would.

It's interesting how the BN/Amz ratio jumps up and down between publishers. I do much better on both BN and UK than Inyun does, I suspect because my topics are of more general interest to English readers no matter what their country. Or I am pitching to a highly literate audience, for whom national oddities of spelling and usage seem less startling. I'm so used to British publishing standards that I scarcely notice if the word is spelled color or colour, or if quote marks are single or double, and I suppose the same is true of many Brits.
digilady

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 11:47 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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NotJohn, what about GoodReads? Do you sell there also, and if so, how well do you do? I understand they have forums there. Am thinking of interacting there, putting the monster there.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 12:05 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Currently selling 13 to 1 in Amazon's favor.

B and N has been a disappointment to me.
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 2:14 PM   in response to: digilady in response to: digilady
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Goodreads sells books? I didn't know that!

Poor B&N. If I didn't feel an obligation to old pals who made the mistake of buying the Nook, I wouldn't publish there at all. l have more borrows on Amz on the few books that I have exclusive to Amz than I sell on B&N. It's cruel to think that I would actually profit if I withdrew everything from B&N, but I think it's true.

(Hard to be sure. If there were no Select program, some of those borrows would probably convert to sales.)
eclecticmango

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 3:37 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I guess I'm the odd one out here. Monthly sales at BN for me are 10,000-15,000 books. They have a better royalty ratio for .99 books than Amazon, btw. Monthly sales for Apple (through Lulu) are 1,000-2,000 books. For Amazon, it's 100-200 (used to be 500-700 before January, boohoo). Google Play: 1 sale total, but I've been too lazy to get all my books there--it's a PITA.

Amazon has a better search experience fer sure, but it's just not working so well for me. I think perhaps there is less competition in my genres at BN.
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Posted: Jun 23, 2012 3:50 PM   in response to: eclecticmango in response to: eclecticmango
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Wow!
eclecticmango

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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 4:04 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Thank you. :) It's pretty darn cool, but certainly wasn't overnight. That's 18 months of self-publishing books I've written over the past 25 years. I have no idea why BN took off and the others didn't--and I'm actually a pretty geeky computer chick that can usually find these things out.

I published my first book 25 years ago with a medium-sized press. It was a run of 10,000 books, and only about 500 of them ever sold. I think I made a nickel an hour on that one.... Other books I published with other publishers made me at most $8,000 total.

I like this much, much better!
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Re: Ratio of B & N sales to those of Amazon.
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 4:07 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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I thought GR had stopped selling books? you can upload freebies / samples but not the full thing for sale any more?
inyun

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Posted: Jun 23, 2012 5:22 PM   in response to: eclecticmango in response to: eclecticmango
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That is a LOT of sales per month.
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