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sloppydog

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 4:13 PM   in response to: fantasybooks in response to: fantasybooks
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thanks for the tip. I'll look into it...
vlgallas

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 4:22 PM   in response to: sherlane in response to: sherlane
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@sherlane

I was just posting on a thread over in "Voice of the Author / Publisher and there are many people having trouble with formatting. For the most part, it looks like trouble with headers and footers in Word. If you have a clue, you may want to help. I only put page numbers in my header, not chapter titles and author name, so it doesn't seem that I'm much help over there.
staceytayloraz

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 23, 2012 5:09 PM   in response to: kelpollard in response to: kelpollard
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OMG I'm glad I'm not the only one.

As mentioned elsewhere on this topic, my one drawback with CS is the requirement to jack up the cost to justify the royalty (or have one at all). I have published my book on Kindle for 4.99 but may drop it down to 3.99, though I've had 4 sales so far (pubbed May 28, not counting the couple of re-uploads after I had to fix stuff) but I knew who bought those and passed them the pdf version so they'd have the current final version.

It took forever to figure out the proper formatting so when I decided to check out CS, I downloaded their 6x9 template and had to tinker with the margins because the reviewer kept spitting it back. Now it's in review on the cover fixes and then I need to upload a better version.

What I totally ran off and did not do was even think to add page numbers! hah. I had been conditioned to no page numbering that I completely forgot about that part in a print version. I don't even know how to do that in Open Office. It'd be nice if they did that for you though.

But this constant chain of uploading, checking, fixing, reuploading is so tedious it's to the point where I don't even want to see my book anymore, I'm so tired of it ;-p The novelty has so worn off ;-p

I can't do anything since it's in review but it's hard for me to justify a $14 cost just to make a buck fifty when even the pdf version would work.

In OO, the page total was 200 something. Once it went through CS it's suddenly 500 something and that base is $12 and change.

I would also like to pull the book from select - I don't want it exclusive and figured I could cancel it but nope...it's locked in til August.

All this info is information overload...it should be a lot easier and more streamlined to get this running smoothly - especially for first time publishers.

Even Kindle is held up 12 hours in review so I can update the description, just fixing a single typo and have to wait 12 hours. That's just pitiful they'd do that.
notjohn

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 3:32 AM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Actually, the old rule that chapters always begin on the right side is just that, an old rule, not much followed any more. Take a representative sample of books from your library published since 2000 and thumb through them. I bet you don't have to search long to find a chapter beginning on an even-numbered page.

To the OP: like some others, I find formatting for paperback much more difficult than for the e-book, where formatting as traditionally understood is pretty much a non-issue. Like most others, I use Word to lay out the book, and while Word is IMHO a better publishing tool than a word-processing tool, it is still not really publishing software. You may be sure that Random House doesn't use it!

Anyone serious about publishing or indeed about writing ought to own the Chicago Manual of Style (I think you can subscribe online) and read it for fun. It has a good section on The Parts Of A Book. I remember seeing an excellent web page on book design a couple years ago. Personally I don't bother with headers or footers except for page numbers, but otherwise I'm meticulous about making my book look like a book.
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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 3:34 AM   in response to: staceytayloraz in response to: staceytayloraz
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**the point where I don't even want to see my book anymore,**

That means you're finally getting it right!
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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 3:40 AM   in response to: sloppydog in response to: sloppydog
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**createspace doesn't sell this side of the pond**

This changed within the month. Go to your Dashboard and select international distribution. I think this is required. I already have euro and sterling payments showing.

My books all appeared on amazon.co.uk within a week. Prior to that, they were offered only by third-party Marketplace sellers.

Early on, I had a CS edition that actually sold more copies in a month than the e-book. That is no longer true, but it still sells better than the others. I guess there are some topics that people actually want to hold in their hand and peruse the oldfashioned way.
recycledpress

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 11:02 AM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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If you plan on being a self published author then createspace gives you practical options to better succeed.

No one will even take you seriously if you don't at least have a paperback option.

Few downsides.

1.Fee's are always a downside however these with CS are not as bad as others.
2.Designing is a downside, if you use a template prepare to fail, crappy designs=crappy sales. People like myself offer cover design services very cheap so find someone professional.
3.Publishers name, you have the option to buy under a company name, or have CS listed as the publisher, yet again if you list CS as the publisher which is the free option you will lose sales and appear to be a crappy author.
4.The biggest issue I've noticed with CS is the lack of consistent quality, 75% of you books will look the same, then some will have shifted covers, faded colors and so on.
sloppydog

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 12:23 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
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Thanks,I'll do it now :-)
vlgallas

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 1:15 PM   in response to: staceytayloraz in response to: staceytayloraz
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[i]"In OO, the page total was 200 something. Once it went through CS it's suddenly 500 something and that base is $12 and change."[/i]

Something went really wrong then. Of course any page count depends on margins. Are the margins different in OO than in Word?
sharidale

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Re: How many take advantage of Createspace?
Posted: Jun 24, 2012 2:22 PM   in response to: staceytayloraz in response to: staceytayloraz
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Formatting is easy as pie once you've successfully formatted one book. After that, just follow the same pattern with the others.

I actually turned the first book into a template of sorts, stripping out most of the text but leaving chapters etc. intact. For new projects, I simply start with the template. I do not first publish on KDP; the original book is done in my template and released as a paperback. Only then do I reformat for Kindle.

The trick is to get your first paperback set up exactly the way you want it as far as front matter and so forth. Then you can just type right over the old title, dedication, etc. The table of contents updates itself as you rename the chapters (depending on your word processor, of course.)

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