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annvremont

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 1:21 PM   in response to: andresanthomas in response to: andresanthomas
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Monkey

3000 is very safe for .99. Not too short, not too expensive. Don't bother with 1.99, readers seem allergic to it as a list price. (That might change when Kobo Writing Life goes live with ?70%? royalties at 1.99 - a lot of .99 authors are going to push it up a dollar, I think, which should normalize it.)

Above 4000, do a little extra work, add some content (character descriptions, behind the scenes, whatever) to push it to at least 5k and go to the 2.99 list price. (But, again - if you are underpricing longer work at 2.99, you might get push back from readers who have purchased your other work.)
staceytayloraz

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 1:33 PM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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I'm pretty sure someone has brought this to your attention but I haven't read all pages on here yet.

Just in case not - or even if so, another reminder aint gonna hurt.

has to be better "then" is incorrect.

so is

less "then"

The word you use is "than" not "then"...you might want to re proof your book to make sure you worked out basic grammar ;-p
andresanthomas

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 1:42 PM   in response to: staceytayloraz in response to: staceytayloraz
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And to tag on to what Stacey said-

Then means next. Like, first he did this, THEN he did that, THEN he did the other thing.

Than relates to comparing things. This is better THAN that. Easier said THAN done. He's older THAN I am.

www.merriam-webster.com is your friend. They make it in a book form too. And you can use the big unabridged ones as a booster seat in a pinch when small children come to visit.
staceytayloraz

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 1:52 PM   in response to: andresanthomas in response to: andresanthomas
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...and to tag onto that...

Just remembered the irritating spellcheck fail in most doc editors don't seem to recognize "would've" "could've" and "should've" as correct (haha even on here they get the red line). It's never would of, could of, or should of. That apostrophe is replacing the ha in "have" would have, could have, should have.

Makes me wonder who works out the construction of these editors they get that wong all the time!

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ghostlywanderer

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 3:22 PM   in response to: staceytayloraz in response to: staceytayloraz
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Haha, just as we are discussing the poor skills of Word et al to do editing, this comes up. Apparently, "Friday" isn't a real word. Who knew? You know what they say- TGI Frida! ;)
1001nightspress

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 3:38 PM   in response to: ghostlywanderer in response to: ghostlywanderer
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Ha... that's great! And don't think you can write about a "more participatory" medium (never mind that google would give you over 14,000 hits for such a phrase)--MS Word would rather have you call it a "participatorier" medium.
andresanthomas

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Posted: Jul 3, 2012 3:54 PM   in response to: 1001nightspress in response to: 1001nightspress
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That's what happens when you let a bunch of engineers near the dictionary!
oldblindog

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 4:18 PM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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@o/p

I think you have been given some very good advice by some very accomplished professional people who know what they're talking about, and they've given that advice for free! They have also been considerably nicer to you than you have any reasonable cause to expect given the many issues with your writing.

I would point out (or in some cases repeat) a few things:

There is no substitute for a knowledgeable human being when it comes to editing.
By itself, Grammar-check is useless, and to a lesser extent, the same goes for Spell-check. This is because neither program has a way of analyzing words or phrases in their broader context. Your spell checker might well indicate that "taught" as you use it in the second paragraph is correct, but, in fact, it is wrong. The word you want is "taut." I see many, many such careless, sloppy errors in your sample, and in your posts, too, where you seem to constantly misspell words, employ the wrong ones ("to" when you mean "too" or even "two;" "then" when you mean "than" etc), or make new ones up altogether. (My irritable, owly inner-tenth-grade-English teacher is dying to come out and say many mean and hurtful things, but I will keep the beast at bay for now.)

The thing is, if you would take the time to learn the proper mechanics of writing; spelling, punctuation, and grammar, you would probably have a pretty good story there; one that people might enjoy reading, or even paying money for. As it is now, not so much.

At this point, if I were you, I'd worry less about "avoiding returns" than getting people to buy your title in the first place. The key to selling and avoiding returns is to offer a quality product that people want to keep. So far, out of hundreds of copies sold or given away, I have had only one (1) return on one (1) title. This is because I've bent over backwards to improve my products, taking constructive criticism to heart without taking anything personally, and being sure never to publish something that isn't as close to perfect as I can make it.

If you're serious about writing, then, please, do take some classes or read some good books on the craft of writing. buy a good hard-copy dictionary and thesaurus; immerse yourself in the mechanics, internalize the rules, and dedicate yourself to constant improvement. But for now, [i]please[/i], refrain from publishing any more sub par products until you have, at the very least, learned how to spell.

cheers

Terrance Aldon Shaw (call me TAS)
emmasweetz

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 5:12 PM   in response to: oldblindog in response to: oldblindog
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I have, and I thank everyone for it. I guess I just read some of the really bad stuff so that's why I thought mine was so good. but the more I look at it the more I see the flaws. I've tweaked it and resubmitted with some more appropriate changes.

I thank you guys for your help and can't wait to hone my talents and put more quality stuff out.
rooferwriter

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 6:15 PM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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I'm not an expert, but I believe its logical that the same applies to this genre as any other. It must be well written,with an eye catching cover,and I would say to a degree it sells itself. Just look at the number of views this thread has had, and I'm moving it to the top again. Some people like fantasy, some like zombies or historical fiction,but everyone is interested in sex even if its just a curiosity in the genre.

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zombiesamaritan

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 6:32 PM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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Emma,
You need to go to your books page and add tags. ‘erotica’, ‘bi-sexual’, ‘love triangle’ etc. Tags help sell books.
Good luck,
Zombie
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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 3, 2012 6:43 PM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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Hi. I hope my comments didn't make you feel too bad, it really was not my intent. And the fact is, all of us have earlier work that if we read today would be painful to read. :)

As much as I appreciate the eBook revolution, it makes it too easy for writers to put up work quickly, before it is really ready. I've one romance novel I wrote about 30 years ago - and I dug it out, thinking of editing it and publishing, as I never did anything with it.

It was painful to read...and even editing editing won't help. So, just take your time, don't give up, and it is good you are listening to all the solid advice you've been given on this thread.

Good luck.

Bobbi
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Posted: Jul 4, 2012 3:50 AM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 4, 2012 5:35 AM   in response to: emmasweetz in response to: emmasweetz
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WOW, this was a good thread and I got a lot out of it. Thanks to all that participated in a constructive way. Here is what I got out of it not in any particular order.

Get a cover that entices and is representative of the content.
Price it to sell taking into account the length of the book and advertise the length.
List tags that represent the content.
Write multiple works and cross reference them.
EDIT EDIT EDIT

My first E-book is erotic, 17,000 words and is listed at $2.99. I have to date sold a dozen copies over several months without promoting it anywhere.

My current plans are to write a couple of sequels at $.99 and about half the size of the original. Also want to reference the other books in a list at the back of the books. I have not seen this done but think it would help sales.

pinkdinky If you are still watching this thread I am interested in the forums you mentioned.

Thanks folks.
pinkdinky

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Re: What does it take to sell your erotica?
Posted: Jul 4, 2012 6:53 AM   in response to: shannon417 in response to: shannon417
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http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/125008364244889/

http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/179974345442647/

http://www.facebook.com/#!/groups/authorspostyourbooks/

Hi here are 2 erotic and one that I thought to include because it's a large group for all genres. Everyone is really nice too.
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