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kwoulfe

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book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 8:34 AM
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I have had 2 messages on my answer phone from someone at Book Whirl asking me to ring them. Whats the story? Any one had any dealings with them?
inyun

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 10:01 AM   in response to: kwoulfe in response to: kwoulfe
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Google. Does not look good.

How did they even get your phone number?
clemlaw

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 10:16 AM   in response to: kwoulfe in response to: kwoulfe
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I bet that was the person who talked to me. Her English was very poor (she had hard time pronouncing the title of my book). I thought she was saying "bookworld.com", but that site didn't have any content. So I'm guessing I heard wrong, and it was actually "bookwhirl.com".

She was trying to make an appointment for me to talk to someone else to make the actual sale. When I could understand her, she had all kinds of wonderful things to say about the amazing services they could provide. She was very vague, but she said they would bring my book to the attention of many "book lovers" (or words to that effect).

The book she actually called about had a very small niche market, and their services would be of absolutely no value. And interestingly, it would be obvious from the title of the book that I wouldn't be interested in mass marketing it.

I kept her on the line for a while to see if I could figure out what they were trying to peddle, but she didn't give any details or prices. I guess they leave that to the guy who actually speaks English.

They called me at my home phone number, which is in the book. My name is unusual enough, and the interior of the book contains my city, so they apprently did a small amount of detective work to get my number.
clemlaw

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 10:24 AM   in response to: clemlaw in response to: clemlaw
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Now that I know the name of the site, I took a look. It looks like for $400, they'll do things like post a bunch of stuff on the internet somewhere where very few people will see it, they'll send out some spam e-mails, and they'll send press releases to people who will throw them away.

(Well, they didn't use those exact words, but I'm reading between the lines a little bit.)
kwoulfe

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: Aug 3, 2012 12:11 PM   in response to: clemlaw in response to: clemlaw
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I must admit the only way I actually got the name was to type the phone number into google as I couldn't make out what she said. Glad the answer phone was on, as I am sure she is only doing her job, but I can be a bit blunt with hard sell people ringing me at home. She knew my name and the title of my book. I got the same message about a month ago so 10 out of 10 for persistence. I presume she found me on a search of my name etc on google as my dog training website would come up, this does have my contact details.

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Vincent Berg

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: May 1, 2014 1:07 PM   in response to: kwoulfe in response to: kwoulfe
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They just contacted me today, and though the tone (person speaking mixed English with an accent) was the same, they gave me a slightly different spiel.

They read and liked my book (despite not picking up on the fact it was the 5th book in a 6 book series) and want to 'present it at an International book show where it will be presented to various book publishers. They need me to pay for the material, printing ads, etc. Total cost $1,700, though they'd need 30% upfront, in only an hours time!

When they'd called, I'd searched for BookWorld (there are now several listings), so I was a little surprised to find it was actually BookWhirl.

That's a lot of money to pay for someone who don't even know what my book is about. And generally, I don't trust 'marketing people' cold calling someone at home.

Think I'll pass on this one.
Don.Dennis

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: May 1, 2014 2:45 PM   in response to: Vincent Berg in response to: Vincent Berg
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Definitely pass on it. They are Carpetbaggers - even if they did present it at an "international" book show, (probably the local food market... in Botswana) the amount they are asking is exorbitant. If a publisher presents your work at such shows, they pay the freight for the stand etc...not you.

It's a con. Wise move.

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Jessica Frances

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: May 1, 2014 2:49 PM   in response to: kwoulfe in response to: kwoulfe
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I remember reading about a story I don't know if it was on here or not. A guy was offered a one time payment of $60,000 from a publisher. He chose to stick with self-publishing and made $300,000 every year instead of the one time payment of $60,000. I don't trust publishing companies unless it's a very known world wide publishing company.

If it's one you've never heard of, I'd forget it. And the ones known worldwide I can't afford so my only choice is self-publishing.
mae312

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Re: book whirl - whats the story?
Posted: May 1, 2014 3:43 PM   in response to: Vincent Berg in response to: Vincent Berg
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Ha! From $400.00 to $1,700.00 in two years. Even the scammers pass along inflation.
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