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nixtricke

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novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 2:57 PM
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what would be an adverage word count for a novel?
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nixtricke
wildeatheart

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 3:04 PM   in response to: nixtricke in response to: nixtricke
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Depends on whom you ask. According to the folks over at NaNoWriMo it's anything over 50,000 words. But according to my mentor a novel isn't a novel until it's 80K.

Personally, I'm not sure it really matters. As long as the story's told fully and completely . . . that's what your readers are going to care most about.
gldrummond

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 3:15 PM   in response to: wildeatheart in response to: wildeatheart
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And according to the SFWA, it's 40k and over. ;)
drazjan

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 4:22 PM   in response to: nixtricke in response to: nixtricke
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Conventional publishers of paperbacks like a first time author's novel to be around 100k. Longer works are a bit of a gamble without a known name on the cover.
headofwords

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 5:03 PM   in response to: nixtricke in response to: nixtricke
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The goalposts have changed with self-publishing. Trad publishers always wanted debut novels in the 100k to 120k range, however once you were in you could do what you liked depending on your level of success. These days, I'd say anything over 40k would be a novel length.
jenngen

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 5:35 PM   in response to: wildeatheart in response to: wildeatheart
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My publisher will not publish anything less than 50,000 words. They told me the gold standard is anything under that is a novella or novelette. Hope that helps
jtbigtoad

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Posted: Sep 18, 2012 6:49 PM   in response to: jenngen in response to: jenngen
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Here is the list I got a while back:

[b] BOOK SIZES BY WORD COUNTS

Under 1k - Flash Fiction
1k - 5k - Short Short
5k - 10k - Short Story
10k - 20k - Novelette
20k - 40k - Novella
40k and up - Novel
[/b]

A few days Ago I saw this:

[b]
NEW PRICING!

— Novels

Front list, meaning brand new. Over 50,000 words. $7.99

Shorter front list novels, meaning 30,000 to 50,000 words. $6.99

Backlist novels, meaning already published by a traditional publisher. $6.99

— Short Books

Short books, meaning stories from 8,000 words to 30,000 words. $3.99

— Short Stories

Short stories … 4,000 to 8,000 words. $2.99

Short stories under 4,000 double with another bonus story… $2.99

— Collections

5 stories $4.99

10 stories $7.99

That’s it. Getting simple these days.

[/b]

JT

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c_har2u

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 7:34 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
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I'm saving this to my desktop. Curious about where you got it. I have a lot of trepidation of seeing weeks and weeks of 0 sales for short stories, especially in the climate of hordes of freebies. But I might timidly test the waters.
jtbigtoad

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Re: novel length
Posted: Sep 18, 2012 7:51 PM   in response to: c_har2u in response to: c_har2u
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I'm saving this to my desktop. Curious about where
you got it. I have a lot of trepidation of seeing
weeks and weeks of 0 sales for short stories,
especially in the climate of hordes of freebies. But
I might timidly test the waters.

It was in a link from a post a few days back!

http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?messageID=324418&#324418

I don't have the guts to go THAT High!

JT

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