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kubecki

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What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 2:54 PM
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Seems to have been fixed now.

I wasn't around when it happened.

I hide my name for good reason, I write EROTICA (read: porn), and I do so under pen names.

Did this cause any issues? What have I missed?
vlgallas

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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:26 PM   in response to: kubecki in response to: kubecki
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It only caused issues for our favorite gang of trolls kubecki. Well, the main troll is attempting gather support from others with exposed names to take on Amazon over it, but the others do not play sock puppet and do not seem all that interested. Really that main troll's name was just another alias Amazon account, but an easily tracked one. Man she lives in a heck of a house - no doubt she is a devout Romney supporter... Sorry you missed it. I didn't click on your profile because you have not been offensive on this forum and I never considered you a sock puppet. The need to know was only in reference to sock puppet pals. :)
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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:29 PM   in response to: kubecki in response to: kubecki
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Folks ostensibly trying to sell books might want to ask themselves why having your real name exposed is such a problem.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:30 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Well I wouldn't be surprised if the name shown on my account wasn't my real one anyway.

I wasn't really worried about fellow KDP members seeing my name, I was primarily concerned that if the profile was indexed for my name, professional contacts could see my posts in which I admit I write filthy erotica!

Are you saying that they showed addresses as well?!!!! Now THAT would be a huge breach of privacy!!
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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:31 PM   in response to: 12349876ffff in response to: 12349876ffff
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Because we are Indie authors who don't have PR reps that are paid to keep things like our private lives, private.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:32 PM   in response to: 12349876ffff in response to: 12349876ffff
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The reason why an erotica writer would not want to expose their real name is precisely the same reason why a porn star creates a stage name.

Remember that many writers have real-world jobs and don't want their out of work activities to conflict with their professional duties.

Authors have used pen names for centuries, it isn't some sort of self-publishing phenomenon, even J K Rowling is going to be writing under a pen name.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:33 PM   in response to: darkdawn389 in response to: darkdawn389
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As an "indie" author, one of the things you're supposed to be selling is yourself.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:34 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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WOW, looks like I have accounts under TWO email addresses..... this little beauty has just been discovered, and based by my 'hidden' real name, this one WOULD have disclosed my real identity.

Strange....
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:35 PM   in response to: 12349876ffff in response to: 12349876ffff
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That's better, my actual account..... feels better..... at least people will believe me when I say I've been publishing on Kindle for 16 months now when they accuse me of being a newbie, lol.

I disagree, I think that Indie books we are supposed to be selling our books not our name.

Yes your name becomes a brand, but it doesn't matter whether that's your real name or not, it's just a name.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:36 PM   in response to: nonfictionman in response to: nonfictionman
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Yeah, I guess I'd give the erotica writers a pass, though I think we should also ask ourselves why. You're gonna write erotica, you might as well own it.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:39 PM   in response to: 12349876ffff in response to: 12349876ffff
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I don't just write erotica though.

I also write non-fiction (see my second account, nonfictionman, NO books published under that though, that would be a terms of service breach).

If I write a technical guide telling people how to use Software Package 5.2, say Random Software Package For Stupid People, it would not be in my interests for readers to click on my name to see that I also publish Huge Big Rods 5 (made up title of course).

Seems obvious to me.

But the same would apply to J K Rowling if she decided to write a book Facebook For Dummies or something, hardly going to use her same name, it would tarnish her brand.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:41 PM   in response to: kubecki in response to: kubecki
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I understand why writers use pseudonyms. But unless you're writing as "anonymous" there usually isn't a problem with learning who owns all those pseudonyms (at least eventually). Now, if you're concerned about real life repercussions because of some of the things you write (and not because of a stupid threat on a message board) then I think then too, we need to ask ourselves why.
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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:47 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Nah, I just tracked an alias Amazon account for your troll pal to a real name. Nothing at all like your friend R.W. Peake advocated doing to me on that troll "editing" thread.
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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 4:06 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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You are way over your head on this one. ;)
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 4:12 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Vicky, my name is Mary, but my friends call me Katie. I even sign my post sometimes as Katie because that is how I am known. You know my full name because we were once friends, or so I thought. You also know I am not Stephanie Taylor, or rather Truth Hurts, as you have accused me of being. You ran an internet check on Miss Taylor and say she lives in Alabama which you know, because of our prior relationship, is where I live. You also know I am married and have children, which you also claim Miss Taylor has, so she must be me. We both live in Alabama, are married, and have children so we must be one in the same.

I have reported your accusations and ugly attacks on me and poor Miss Taylor to Amazon, and they are currently looking into it. I gave them Truth Hurt's information and asked them to also look into it to verify that I am, in fact, not him. Yet, with all that being repeatedly said on this forum, you insist on continuing your assault on my character by claiming I have multiple accounts, which we all know is against the rules. Furthermore, if you believe your accusations to be true, then why haven't you taken them to Amazon instead of making a fool out of yourself here by beating a dead horse. Clearly your objective is not the truth, but rather to make the other members think I have two accounts and do bad things with them.

As for me not wanting my entire name out here, well, it used to be, along with links to my books, but then people from this forum began to put ugly tags on my books, vote down my good reviews, and leave me bad reviews. That was when I changed my profile information to my first name only and my login to my one initial K, along with the year I was born. I've nothing to hide, but at the same time, I don't want or need the harassment, and Vicky, I have witnessed some pretty harsh harassment for others here at your hands.

And that is the story. Vicky has an axe to grind with me, which started with me not agreeing with her over her desire to go after one of the members here for spamming. I wouldn't do it, and now she is after me, and if she can defame me, she will.

This the truth. You all will have to decide if you believe it.

Katie

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 4:31 PM

Oh, and it is not a Romney sigh in my front yard. It is a Ron Paul poster. I have said repeatedly here I am Libertarian. You know, it takes some nerve to use Google Earth or whatever you used to spy on my house.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 4:38 PM
Below is most of the quote. Unfortunately, the part about my yard sign had been edited out.

quote It only caused issues for our favorite gang of trolls kubecki. Well, the main troll is attempting gather support from others with exposed names to take on Amazon over it, but the others do not play sock puppet and do not seem all that interested. Really that main troll's name was just another alias Amazon account, but an easily tracked one. Man she lives in a heck of a house - no doubt she is a devout Romney supporter... Sorry you missed it. I didn't click on your profile because you have not been offensive on this forum and I never considered you a sock puppet. The need to know was only in reference to sock puppet pals. :) [/quote]

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 4:41 PM
19k54

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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 4:17 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Now you are threatening me. That is just sad that this is what you are about.

Yes, folks, she has my email and my phone number, because, like I said, we were once friends. People, I want you to think about this. If she will do this to me, she will do it to you, too, if you ever disagree with her. Also, according to her own words, she is a master at internet sleuthing. She knows how to uncover anything she wants, and as you now see she not only will do it, she'll also use it against you. So, author beware.
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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 4:20 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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quote I also understand why writers use pseudonyms, but I'll never understand or accept the sock puppet parties that a handful have around here, especially when I'm one of many on the receiving end of the crap.

Really it doesn't matter at all to me, except that they will now have no choce but to stop. That's the thing about sock puppets - once exposed, they're done, whether they believe so or not.

Another word out of the sock puppet party here in KDP and I'll be a bloggin'. ;)

I'll give it about an hour so 19k54 can beg them all to cease attack.[/quote]

quoted so that she cannot edit her post and remove it, accusing me of making it up like she is known to do.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 4:28 PM

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 4:28 PM
nonfictionman

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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 4:27 PM   in response to: 12349876ffff in response to: 12349876ffff
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Think you are looking into this a little too deep, you are also getting your wires crossed slightly.

If people were to discover the real name behind my forum identity, that would not give them the ability to find my publications, seeing as my publications are not published under my real name and have not been shared on this forum.

But if I wanted to post under my real name I would have chosen to, I did not.

Neither did you, you decided to create the username '12349876fff' instead of using your real name. So not sure what it is exactly what your point is, but you chose to remain anonymous on this board just as I did.
19k54

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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 5:26 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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As I said, if you think I have two accounts, report me. I have reported you.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 5:36 PM

ETA: What we were talking about, ironically, was the abuse on the forum and how people jump others. I had gotten a negative review which I felt sure care from someone on this forum, but of course, I could not prove it. You wanted to use one of your fake accounts to leave who we thought the review came from a hit review, but I told you not to because I could not prove it one way or the other. We also talked about Christianity and other things, so yes, I did consider you a friend. But regardless of what we thought or what we said privately, you have no right to bring it to this board or to call up an army of attacker to harass me either by email or by phone and since you have now threatened it, I believe you did indeed research Lovely as she claims and harass her like you say you will me.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 5:42 PM
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76year2

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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 5:43 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Quote---It only caused issues for our favorite gang of trolls kubecki. Well, the main troll is attempting gather support from others with exposed names to take on Amazon over it, but the others do not play sock puppet and do not seem all that interested. Really that main troll's name was just another alias Amazon account, but an easily tracked one. Man she lives in a heck of a house - no doubt she is a devout Romney supporter... Sorry you missed it. I didn't click on your profile because you have not been offensive on this forum and I never considered you a sock puppet. The need to know was only in reference to sock puppet pals.--- UnQuote

If she's a Romney supporter then I'll have to say "What a nice Lady"

Not sheirff anymore the new name will be Madam Stalker.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 6:36 PM   in response to: 76year2 in response to: 76year2
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@Dan

There has been far too much done here by your friends with the troll accounts. I'm not real clear on why you bother to come to their defense because none support you as a writer or promote your books in the course of their day. I know you were truly appreciative of Lovely after she helped you in past, but her review account was closed by Amazon for abuse and the review is gone. Trust me; as far as friends go - they're lousy.

Actually she moved - the first house looked better in Maps. Looking at people that abuse me closely is far from illegal; it's the internet. Researching an author, a poster, a sock puppet, or anyone will never be considered illegal, well, at least it is not yet in the US. I do research for a living, so I know it ain't illegal. I gut public documents and trackdown hidden files to expose people that lie in court.

Your new name for me actually accuses me of a crime. Your friends have made numerous false accusations that accuse me of crimes. I am not and have never been a criminal and the accusation is not legal. Just so you are aware before you continue spreading such lies: I have never been convicted of anything except a traffic infraction.

I really do not sit back and accept the dissemination of false accusations or libelous statements. I do not have to. If you actually believe that a person on a forum that names a sock puppet and intends to blog about that particular sock puppet is a criminal, then I'd suggest you see an attorney and learn about the topic.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 7:12 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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Neither Lovely or I have moved. I heard her say she has bought a new house, but as of yet, she has not moved. I have lived here at my present address since 2003. Before that we had a farm. Until about two weeks ago, I had a Ron Paul sign in my yard which was blue and similar to Mitt Romney's, but it wasn't Mittens. So the picture of my house is an old one.

Nevertheless, why did you feel the need to look up both mine and Lovely's house? I have never Googled you. I'm not interested enough in your personal life to do that. As for the other accusations, I've no idea what you are talking about. I've never accused you of anything legal or illegal. You continue to defame my charter, and I have to ask why? I'm just someone on a writers forum. I'm not in competition with you. I write fiction and you write non-fiction. I do, however, on occasion, disagree with you, and I do think you bully people. But other than that, I don't see why you stir up so much drama and jump to so many conclusions.

Do I need to post my author page and website to prove who I am? And if I do, will you sic your followers on me to leave bad reviews? After all, you say they are going to harass me at your word. You know something, I have wasted so much time here. My novel should have been out by now, but it is only half done. Truly, I think I will follow Tim and ask Amazon to deleted profile. If you follow though with your threats, then I guess I will have to have my email and my phone number changed with the phone number unlisted. Unfortunately, I cannot change my address.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 7:14 PM

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@Dan

There has been far too much done here by your friends with the troll accounts. I'm not real clear on why you bother to come to their defense because none support you as a writer or promote your books in the course of their day. I know you were truly appreciative of Lovely after she helped you in past, but her review account was closed by Amazon for abuse and the review is gone. Trust me; as far as friends go - they're lousy.

Actually she moved - the first house looked better in Maps. Looking at people that abuse me closely is far from illegal; it's the internet. Researching an author, a poster, a sock puppet, or anyone will never be considered illegal, well, at least it is not yet in the US. I do research for a living, so I know it ain't illegal. I gut public documents and trackdown hidden files to expose people that lie in court.

Your new name for me actually accuses me of a crime. Your friends have made numerous false accusations that accuse me of crimes. I am not and have never been a criminal and the accusation is not legal. Just so you are aware before you continue spreading such lies: I have never been convicted of anything except a traffic infraction.

I really do not sit back and accept the dissemination of false accusations or libelous statements. I do not have to. If you actually believe that a person on a forum that names a sock puppet and intends to blog about that particular sock puppet is a criminal, then I'd suggest you see an attorney and learn about the topic.

lovelylace1979

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Re: What happened with the 'real names' thing then?
Posted: Sep 25, 2012 7:12 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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You are way over your head on this one. ;)
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 7:14 PM   in response to: lovelylace1979 in response to: lovelylace1979
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Lovely did you not see what she wrote? She Googled your information and found your house. That means she can watch you and your kids if she so wants to.

Edited by: 19k54 on Sep 25, 2012 9:43 PM
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 7:15 PM   in response to: 76year2 in response to: 76year2
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Everyone thought I was lying about the crazy stuff that was done to me from this forum, now as she spill all that she has and will do, people will start to see the truth. Vicky is a stalker and harasser who goes all out to do just that, stalk and harass people she don't like.
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Posted: Sep 25, 2012 7:21 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
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@vlgallas

You say you do reshearch into people lives, too me that is stalking. And you are going to expose them, you were the one that butted in where we were haveing a nice conversation and started saying weird things, insulting things. And you pissed me off, most of the time I laugh it off. And I see in a most calm thread when you butt in the arguement starts.

And I don't have any friends here, only some people wish to help without being rude. And I really don't care if my books are promoted or not, I don't promote other peoples books so what else is new?
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