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phi1richards

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How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 1, 2012 2:21 PM
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Hi
After a pretty pathetic month in august, my book, C.R.O.W, a military science fiction novel, has sold pretty well. It sold about sixty copies in august, whereas last month it sold 650 (or thereabouts). I never thought in a million years that my book would actually sell so many copies in a year, let alone a month! But then I am British, and so a nautural pesimist. So, as the negative man that I am, I have come to the conclusion that my ebook shall eventually drop off the charts and sales die off. I am aware, or at least I have heard, that amazon operate an algorithm that means that my book must sell more and mpore copies in order to maintain it's position in the charts, and every time somebody buys a copy he wont be buying it again! At present, my ebook tends to skirt between #1 and #10 in its genre, and sells approximately thirty to fourty copies per day. Will this continue? How long can an ebook hold that position, and when it drops, does it do so slowly, or simply die off suddenly. Can I expect much in the way of residual sales after my book has finally dissappeared off the chart completely?
I know that every ebook is different, Im just after a rough understanding of how things might go from somebody who has already had it happen. Obviously I appreciate that writing more and more ebooks is the ultimate answer, I just wanted to know what sort of timeframe I have to produce one before the other packs in! Cheers!
Marcy Henshaw

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 1, 2012 2:56 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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I think you've asked an impossible question to answer, to be honest.

Sales depend on YOUR marketing...as well as word-of-mouth. If those buyers like it, are they telling others? Are you actively marketing it? When did you do your free five day promo?
semoer

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 1, 2012 3:04 PM   in response to: Marcy Henshaw in response to: Marcy Henshaw
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Mate, if you're selling 650 per month after two months, I want to know what you're doing to market your book!! You won't get those sales levels organically! You must be plugging the you-know-what out of it. I shouldn't be too bothered about the cliff, if I were you!
andresanthomas

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 1, 2012 3:25 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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Get a new book out every 2-3 months and you'll always be on the charts.
englishspadeslo...

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 1, 2012 3:28 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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It looks like the author may be piggybacking off of a a well-known and famous author who writes in the same genre. The OP has his name as Phillip Richards and the well known author who writes in the same genre is Richard Phillips. Maybe this is a coincidence. But I bet the reason why the author may be getting so many sales is because people think he is the other author. Everything about his book, from the title, to the cover to the description would make you think it is the same person!
phi1richards

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:39 PM   in response to: englishspadeslo... in response to: englishspadeslo...
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Wow.
Well I wasnt expecting that. To be fair, you appear to be correct, in that upon typing in the name Richard Phillips my book does indeed appear. This concerns me a little bit. But not alot. First of all, I cant help me name, even if it is convenient that it matches another person's. Thats as far as the similarities go. If you look at my cover art, it is produced by an artist known as 'weaselpa', who can be found on DEVIANTART, as my book advertises in its opening pages. It is clearly amateur, produced under a very tight budget. I cant find a cover with a similar appearance under the name Richard Phillips, but I can find plenty of other ebooks with similar scenes of combat by other authors in my genre. Also, I notice that the product description is no more similar to mine than any other science fiction novel. A quick read of my first few pages will identify that it doesnt read anything like his work either, and that it is in fact a complete, stand alone novel that has absolutely nothing to do with his work. Most people who search for books do not do so by typing in the authors name, Im sure many do, but not all of them. A great deal of my sales occurred after my book was covered on a blog in the US, during which I think I made it pretty clear that I was British. But perhaps you're right, some of my readers may indeed have made the fatal error of buying the wrong book. So..... why have they not returned them? Why have they not complained? Because, in my opinion, its a good book.
What actually concerns me, however, is that clearly somebody in this community has incinuated that I am cheating in some way. I will look into this, because I cannot accept people thinking that. Perhaps I should update my product description to include details about me. But Im certainly not changing my cover, I paid a good man 200 dollars for it. And Im not changing my name. Cos. Um. Its my name. Incidentally, did you know that Richard Phillips also wrote A Mornings Walk from London to Kew. Perhaps he did. Or perhaps somebody else has his name. The cheek.
phi1richards

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 12:40 PM   in response to: englishspadeslo... in response to: englishspadeslo...
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Wow.
Well I wasnt expecting that. To be fair, you appear to be correct, in that upon typing in the name Richard Phillips my book does indeed appear. This concerns me a little bit. But not alot. First of all, I cant help me name, even if it is convenient that it matches another person's. Thats as far as the similarities go. If you look at my cover art, it is produced by an artist known as 'weaselpa', who can be found on DEVIANTART, as my book advertises in its opening pages. It is clearly amateur, produced under a very tight budget. I cant find a cover with a similar appearance under the name Richard Phillips, but I can find plenty of other ebooks with similar scenes of combat by other authors in my genre. Also, I notice that the product description is no more similar to mine than any other science fiction novel. A quick read of my first few pages will identify that it doesnt read anything like his work either, and that it is in fact a complete, stand alone novel that has absolutely nothing to do with his work. Most people who search for books do not do so by typing in the authors name, Im sure many do, but not all of them. A great deal of my sales occurred after my book was covered on a blog in the US, during which I think I made it pretty clear that I was British. But perhaps you're right, some of my readers may indeed have made the fatal error of buying the wrong book. So..... why have they not returned them? Why have they not complained? Because, in my opinion, its a good book.
What actually concerns me, however, is that clearly somebody in this community has incinuated that I am cheating in some way. I will look into this, because I cannot accept people thinking that. Perhaps I should update my product description to include details about me. But Im certainly not changing my cover, I paid a good man 200 dollars for it. And Im not changing my name. Cos. Um. Its my name. Incidentally, did you know that Richard Phillips also wrote A Mornings Walk from London to Kew. Perhaps he did. Or perhaps somebody else has his name. The cheek.
phi1richards

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 2:19 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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Ok. As a response to the previous comment, I have edited my product description page to include a description of who I am, which- short of changing my own name- is about all that I think I can do. This change should come into effect over the next few days. I seriously doubt that this will effect my sales, especially in the U.K, since my work is infact outselling the book it is supposedly piggybacking upon. Hopefully this will be the end of it.
joeveramu

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 4:18 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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I think you have to be thick skinned when you post here! lol.

I looked at your book product page and can see straightaway that you have an eye catching cover, an excellent blurb and the sample is readable.

It is clear that those who buy your books do not mistake you for that other author as is evidenced from "those who bought this book also bought..."

Ths book breaks the rules in marketting in that it has only 1 tag and it looks to have only 1 main category but it sure has fired up readers.

To maintain your high sales figures, you'd need to publish a sequel to it soon.

All the best.
Joseph

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76year2

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 4:40 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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When you say sold, does that mean you sold that many or did you have a few free days in there? If you did they will show up as sold for 0 amount of money. Free books get downloaded quick. I don't mean to ensult you, I'm just asking.

Hay, I went and read your look inside, Very good.
phi1richards

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 10:17 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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Yes, I think I do indeed need thicker skin! But I would hate for people to think of me as a phony. Thankyou very much for sticking up for me! I will leave the product description once it has changed anyway, just so that it (hopefully) cannot happen again. No I havent used a free promo or anything. Im with kdp select, but I dont know why, the idea of giving away my work for free makes me feel Ill! I worked for years on it (my day job gets reeely busy!) Im already working on a sequel. As for marketing, all I have done is religeously spent a couple of hours on websites dropping little promo ads. I also did a blog interview, which sent sales soaring, so I would reccomend that to anyone. Thanks guys, I feel a bit better now!
76year2

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 2, 2012 11:39 PM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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You discribe your weapon very much like my 'better rifle' in The Dart Game. I guess we both seen the one that is being worked on, the trouble with the one I seen being tested was it used a lot of elect. power. But they will get it so it can be used. Electric Magnetic Rifle sometime in the future. Glad you are having good luck with your book.
kubecki

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 3, 2012 1:29 AM   in response to: englishspadeslo... in response to: englishspadeslo...
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It is typical of this forum that when anybody who has had even a modicum of success appears, there are attempts to knock down or to discredit the author.

The OP didn't solicit such a response, and neither do other authors find them in any way helpful or insightful, neither was your half-hearted exposé in any way relevant to the original post. The original post was once from a new member asking experienced members for insight or advice.

In typical 'General Questions' fashion, the newbie is welcomed not by helpful members, but by spiteful and jealous authors who turn so green with even that they end up spewing out projectile vomit all over their keyboard.

Those types of members should consider quitting KDP and instead applying for a job with a Murdoch newspaper, or the National enquirer, where they would fit in just wonderfully.
monkey2009

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 3, 2012 2:39 AM   in response to: phi1richards in response to: phi1richards
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You are obviously doing something right to get that many sales in a short time:)

If you can get another book out there. WHo knows when the bubble will burst on the first one, it is indeed one of those impossible questions.
Enjoy it whilst it is still sellling and making you money:)

Get more books out there and carry on writing.
englishspadeslo...

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Re: How may I expect my book to die?
Posted: Oct 3, 2012 5:28 AM   in response to: kubecki in response to: kubecki
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Excuse me?

I conceded in my comments that it may be a coincidence. What is up with all you haters?

It is odd for a unknown author to write a book, do no marketing and within a few months to be selling the way he is selling. I offered what I thought may be a reason why that is happening.

I am not hating on his sales at all. Last month I sold 1599 books in the US (I don't track European sales). All of these sales were PAID for and so while modest in comparison to some people, I am very happy.

I think that everyone is entitled to their opinion. Isn't freedom of speech one of my rights?
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