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divorcedoctor

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Posted: Dec 27, 2013 4:29 PM
 
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Can anyone please explain what is the Kindle Cloud Reader, how to see it and reasons to use it if you already use Kindle for PC
Marc Borai

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Re: cloud reader
Posted: Dec 27, 2013 4:33 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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For me it means I can get my books on any device. All my books are available in the cloud.
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Re: cloud reader
Posted: Dec 27, 2013 7:40 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I assume its the same as iCloud from Apple.

The books appear in your bookshelf. But, the contents of the book is actually in iCloud. When you open the book in your bookshelf, the book opens in the cloud. That way, you can read the book across all your devices. Without actually installing it.
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Posted: Dec 27, 2013 7:47 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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so you actually read the book inside your web browser

I don't see any advantage over using the stand alone Kindle for PC/MAC

but seems there are minuses in reduced display features

does it only show 2 pages view or can it be single page?
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Posted: Dec 27, 2013 7:52 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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No, you don't read the book in your web browser at all.

You read the book in your eBook app
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Posted: Dec 27, 2013 8:06 PM   in response to: mixus in response to: mixus
 
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can you explain "ebook app" please
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Posted: Dec 27, 2013 9:00 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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Books remain online in the cloud reader and can be read from any machine you can login to. You can read right there in your browser. But you need to be connected to the interwebs. Kindle apps are for downloading the kindle files and reading on your machine offline if you wish. Just login to Amazon and go to your cloud reader and check it out.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2013 2:56 AM   in response to: Marc Borai in response to: Marc Borai
 
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Books remain online in the cloud reader and can be read from any machine you can login to. You can read right there in your browser. But you need to be connected to the interwebs. Kindle apps are for downloading the kindle files and reading on your machine offline if you wish. Just login to Amazon and go to your cloud reader and check it out.

Just so. There is no "ebook app" involved.

I have a friend who is so iPad-unaware that in six or seven tries she was unable to install the Kindle app. She ended up reading the book on the Cloud Reader.

I don't use Cloud Reader -- nor do I use Kindle for PC. Both give an inaccurate impression of what the book actually looks like, much as the Look Inside preview does. Publishers should own and use an actual Kindle for that purpose, or better yet two or three (E-ink Kindle like the old K3Keyboard, Fire HD, and Paperwhite). It's not much of an investment, compared to the computer. (And when you're done reading in bed with the Fire, you can check your email!)

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Posted: Dec 28, 2013 7:56 AM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I love my cloud reader. I am sight impaired and it is much easier for me than the Kindle.

https://read. amazon. com/

Not sure if this link will take you to the download. If not, Just search for "cloud reader" at Amazon. It's free and opens in your browser. It has it's own library. When you buy a book you can choose to download it to your cloud or Kindle. If you want to switch reading methods, you can do that in "manage my Kindle."

Setting up your cloud is a good idea anyway in case something happens to your Kindle.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2013 4:19 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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If you want to switch reading methods, you can do that in "manage my Kindle."

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Yes, that is what I was trying to avoid, ie messing up what already works, but seems that as I suspected this is a bit like the Look Inside rendition wise, ie not to be taken seriously.

The issue is a customer had got back to me to say his book had some images "jumping to next page" and he sent a screenie from cloud with a 2 page view (is there a one/two page option?).

As always I had checked his mobi file in the "proper" previewer in all 11 or so "modes" (incl Kindle for PC) and all was fine, so I was thinking IF I also need to check in Cloud Reader then why is it not listed here.

So I guess the answer is because it works in a browser it must contort to whatever browser size the user employs so it is pointless trying to simulate it.

Is that correct?
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Posted: Dec 28, 2013 4:31 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I don't see any way to bring up a split page in my reader. The cloud turns the page just like a Kindle, so I can only assume half of the picture was on one page and the rest on the next.

However, under settings your customer can increase the side margins, which might help. I think it defaults to fairly wide margins automatically, but there are two more settings available that will increase the size of the actual reading material. That might make the picture behave.
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Posted: Dec 28, 2013 4:45 PM   in response to: martitalbott in response to: martitalbott
 
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He sent me a sceenie with just a level 1 heading on left and image on right, whereas in all devices cept IPhone the image was under the heading.

anyway I have given him the link to the PROPER Previewer and mobi file so he can see for himself how it will look for his potential buyers
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Re: cloud reader
Posted: Dec 28, 2013 5:12 PM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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I use the Cloud Reader occasionally through a separate account, but find it doesn't display ebooks as accurately as on Kindle or via the Kindle emulator on I Pad.

The Cloud Reader seems slow from down here...although I have a cable (fibre) connection...must be the routing to the cloud...

I also have Kindle for PC on several machines.

I prefer testing on the actual devices though (Kindle and I Pads) and have found a few (but not major) anomalies with some Kindle eBook link types in IPad when it uses the emulator...easily worked around.

DD

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Re: cloud reader
Posted: Dec 29, 2013 12:24 AM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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anyway I have given him the link to the PROPER Previewer and mobi file so he can see for himself how it will look for his potential buyers

The bad news is, that's not correct. Many people use the Cloud Reader on devices. They can't use "Kindle for PC" on a Droid device, and many people prefer the Cloud Reader over "Kindle for iPad" or "Kindle for iPhone" on the Mac devices. Amazon deliberately makes it easier for people to use the Cloud reader on Apple devices, because they've cut off the access to the website, or any outgoing links to Amazon, from within the K4iPad/iPhone reader (per Apple's demands for a cut of their sales through any "app"). Now the Cloud Reader is Safari based, (on iPad), and Amazon doesn't have to pay Apple a thing. For authors particularly, they'll hope that people are using the Cloud reader, so that when done with Book #1, they can immediately go and purchase Book #2, if they have a series, which they can't do on "Kindle for ipad."

The same is true for numerous devices, whether tablets or readers. (That's why your client is seeing a "two-page" view). You'd best become accustomed to checking formatting on an actual device, in the concomitant Cloud Reader. It's completely incorrect to assume that everyone will read on a dedicated Kindle reader. Aren't you the one that's always going on and on about how "more people read on computers" than dedicated devices? Which is what Cloud Reader accommodates? You're not switching horses in midstream, are you? Again?

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Posted: Dec 29, 2013 12:45 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
 
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You'd best become accustomed to checking formatting on an actual device, in the concomitant Cloud Reader. It's completely incorrect to assume that everyone will read on a dedicated Kindle reader.

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so once again, as "Listed as an Amazon Professional Conversion Service" you seek to pour poo ON the very tool Amazon PROVIDES for Preview of formatting.

I am thinking your listing days may be numbered Red Adair
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