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okmedia

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How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 23, 2014 6:07 PM
 
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I know how to create a TOC with the instructions given here, but when I do that, all that happens when I click on the Table of Contents in the Kindle program is that it brings up the page of my book that has the TOC on it.

I don't want that, the best books have the TOC in the left pane so it is there all the time after clicking it and you can easily click different chapters without having to click the TOC again.
Charlie S

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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 23, 2014 8:03 PM   in response to: okmedia in response to: okmedia
 
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okmedia wrote:
the best books have the TOC in the left pane so it is there all the time after clicking it and you can easily click different chapters without having to click the TOC again.

That's the NCX navigation file. It's used in place of a TOC in ePub eReaders. Most Kindles don't have a button for that, nor a way to show it on the left the way it is in ePub eReaders. Kindle apps like Kindle for PC have it, but it's not on any of the Kindle eReaders that I know of.

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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 23, 2014 9:22 PM   in response to: Charlie S in response to: Charlie S
 
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Thanks, but because of the large number of PC Kindle use, I still would like to know how to do that.
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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 23, 2014 9:53 PM   in response to: okmedia in response to: okmedia
 
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The number of people using Kindle for PC is very small and hardly worth worrying about. Who the heck wants to read a book on a computer?

What you're looking for is an NCX file. The easiest way to get one if working in Word is to upload your Word project complete, and then when it asks you to preview the file, choose to download it. Then take that Mobi file and open it in Calibre. Save it as a Mobi again, and Calibre will automatically copy your HTML TOC to make an NCX, so your NCX will be identical to it. Then take this new Mobi file and upload over the previous one. As long as your Word file was styled correctly to begin with, you shouldn't have any problems. Calibre is a free download. Google it. It's not a great piece of software, but it's not half as bad as some people make it out to be.

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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 24, 2014 3:46 AM   in response to: Charlie S in response to: Charlie S
 
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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 24, 2014 3:52 AM   in response to: Charlie S in response to: Charlie S
 
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Then take that Mobi file and open it in Calibre. Save it as a Mobi again, and Calibre will automatically copy your HTML TOC to make an NCX, so your NCX will be identical to it.

Neat trick! Have you uploaded many Calibre-generated files to the KDP? Have any been rejected?

It's not a great piece of software, but it's not half as bad as some people make it out to be.

Well, I advise against using it for formatting, but that's not because I don't think it's good software. It's a library management tool for people who want to play games with their downloaded or self-created books, and for that purpose it's excellent. I have used it (in combination with other software) to break DRM on a book I bought that turned out to be readable only on Adobe software, and like you I hate to read books on a computer. So I took out the DRM and moved it to my Fire tablet and opened it in Overdrive reader, which is pretty good, anyhow better than getting a stiff neck at my computer station.

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okmedia

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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:58 AM   in response to: cub06h in response to: cub06h
 
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Thanks much.
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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 24, 2014 7:51 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Notjohn wrote:
Have you uploaded many Calibre-generated files to the KDP? Have any been rejected?

I used to all the time a couple of years ago when I first started. Never had a problem with any of them.

Well, I advise against using it for formatting, but that's not because I don't think it's good software.

I don't. WIth simple reflowable books that have been formatted correctly in Word to begin with, it works fine. Its CSS might not be pretty, but it's proper. Just don't try to use it for books that have any KF8 styles in it. That's when you'll get into trouble.

I have used it (in combination with other software) to break DRM on a book I bought that turned out to be readable only on Adobe software, and like you I hate to read books on a computer. So I took out the DRM and moved it to my Fire tablet and opened it in Overdrive reader, which is pretty good, anyhow better than getting a stiff neck at my computer station.

I use it all the time to break the DRM in every book I buy that has DRM in it, and I use it to convert ePubs of classic public domain books I've downloaded at free sites to Mobi files I can read on my K3 or Paperwhite. Works fine as long as those books were well formatted in the first place.

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Re: How do I create a TOC on the left pane, not on the read page?
Posted: Oct 25, 2014 2:56 AM   in response to: Charlie S in response to: Charlie S
 
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