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cillian

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Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 10:38 AM
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Do you think if you're a short story writer you should publish each short story you write separately or should you compile them all together in one book?
Brandon Jennings

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 10:49 AM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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Do you have a full book of stories and are they related in some way? If you do and they are, then you should probably publish them as a whole book.

If you have a bunch of random short stories that are only related because you are the writer, then you may want to publish them individually, but if you are looking
to make money, like any money at all, then it's probably better to wait until you have a whole book of stories that can be published as a collection. If you just want to
have your stories published and don't care about money, then do whatever you want however you want to do it. But you should also consider the thought of covers.
One cover for one story collection is a lot less of a pain than a cover for each individual story. You might like pain, though. So, again, gotta do what you feel on this
stuff sometimes. Best of luck no matter what you do.

BDJ
Jonathan B

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 11:04 AM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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I've got two shorts published. One is barely a story, just over 2,000 words. It has sold, but being so short, the KENP doesn't create a big payout. I have another short at just over 10,000 words, and it is actually selling quite well. So it varies even within one writer.

However, as noted above by Brandon, it takes just as much effort to create a cover for a short as for a novel.

I've decided to write shorts between novels to clear my head, and once I do have enough in a single genre, I plan on offering them together under one title.
writerbn

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 11:19 AM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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cillian wrote:
Do you think if you're a short story writer you should publish each short story you write separately or should you compile them all together in one book?

It depends entirely on the genre. In most situations, you'd do best to wait until you have a collection, linked by a common theme, as the others suggested.

In erotica and its variations, you can get by with publishing individual shorts (still at least 5K or so) and then bundling them into a collection.
Joseph M Erhardt

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 11:25 AM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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I think I'd leave two or three stories separate, as intros to my writing, and collect the rest into a volume of at least 40k words that I could sell at 2.99.

If one or more of the separate stories are included in the volume, I'd be sure to make that clear in the blurb info on the separate stories' product pages, or you'll get returns and/or nasty reviews.
chris christoph...

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 2:38 PM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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Depends mainly on the genre.

I always publish novelettes (7,500 - 17,500 words) and novellas (17,500 - 40,000 words) individually. I have very few short stories ( < 7,500 words), but also publish them individually. They definitely make more money that way for me. I do a compilation once in awhile of previously released, related stories. Those sell as well, but at only about 10% volume (or less) of the individual stories. For reference, my books are generally one of the following: romance, erotic romance, erotica, supernatural/horror, or metafiction/postmodernism.
acornwriter

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 3:08 PM   in response to: chris christoph... in response to: chris christoph...
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Are there special categories for the shorties? They don't go in the same line-up as a 50,000 plus page novel do they? Just curious. Thanks...
chris christoph...

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Posted: Sep 21, 2016 3:42 PM   in response to: acornwriter in response to: acornwriter
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acornwriter wrote:
Are there special categories for the shorties? They don't go in the same line-up as a 50,000 plus page novel do they? Just curious. Thanks...

Hi,
Yes, there are 'short reads' categories (or category). I've never actually placed anything there, but I've noticed that Amazon (automated algorithms, I presume) has placed some of the shorter works in there.

But when the 'customers who bought this also bought such and such...' shows up, they often do appear side-by-side with full-length novels. So, I'm not sure exactly how they handle the length issue in general. Seems to be mostly related to similar themes/genres/topics, or sometimes just cover art, it seems!
Jonathan B

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 4:03 PM   in response to: acornwriter in response to: acornwriter
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acornwriter wrote:
Are there special categories for the shorties? They don't go in the same line-up as a 50,000 plus page novel do they? Just curious. Thanks...

Yes, and it doesn't take nearly as many sales to reach #1 in Kindle Store > Kindle Short Reads > 90 minutes (44-64 pages) > Science Fiction & Fantasy as it does with novels. :)

acornwriter

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Posted: Sep 21, 2016 4:46 PM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
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So if I wrote a 10,000 page historical fiction, would I be required to list it as a short or do I just list it and let Amazon do it's thing?
William D Jempt...

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 4:51 PM   in response to: acornwriter in response to: acornwriter
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acornwriter wrote:
So if I wrote a 10,000 page historical fiction, would I be required to list it as a short or do I just list it and let Amazon do it's thing?

Did you mean 10,000 word?
acornwriter

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Posted: Sep 21, 2016 5:04 PM   in response to: William D Jempt... in response to: William D Jempt...
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Did you mean 10,000 word?

LOL. Yes, 10,000 words. Thanks for editing...
chris christoph...

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 21, 2016 5:37 PM   in response to: acornwriter in response to: acornwriter
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acornwriter wrote:
Did you mean 10,000 word?

LOL. Yes, 10,000 words. Thanks for editing...

No, you can list it in any two categories you think apply. Amazon may later 'adjust' the categories (by adding more). I've noticed this happens at times... other times not. I'm not sure what triggers it. Looks like it has to do with your keywords and maybe the buying habits of the readers.

Best get started on those 10,000 pages... :-)

crazywriterlady

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 22, 2016 4:10 AM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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What genre are they? Because outside of erotica, shorts don't sell well -- as in, almost nothing -- no matter what you do. There's someone on kboards right now blaming Amazon for his stuff not selling, when it's what he's writing that is the problem.

As I said on your other thread, shorts aren't worth the effort. You won't get more than pennies in KU, sales won't be there, and you're multiplying your expenses in regards to any potential profit (covers, editing, proofreading). Then there's the issue of most places not taking short works for promotions.

I have heard some are doing shorts in Romance and selling, but those are rarities. You can't let that be your guide, unless you just like writing them and don't really care if they sell. But I don't believe that's your intention, or you wouldn't be worried about reviews.
Sabrina N Horne

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Re: Separate short stories?
Posted: Sep 23, 2016 2:24 PM   in response to: cillian in response to: cillian
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I would say sell them separately. I read individual erotic short stories all the time because I have particular things I am looking for in an erotica. I honestly don't read compilations. I know some readers complain about having to pay for a short story, but look at it this way. If you offer a short story for $.99 or $1.99, that is still cheaper than a latte or a Big Mac. Wishing you the best of luck!

Sabrina
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