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openhearted

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do folks buy fiction anymore? should you write literary fiction?
Posted: Apr 2, 2015 7:15 AM
 
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okay, that's 2 questions--so what--2 for the price of one
I have a friend who I was disappointed to see writing non-fiction
what's worse, his non-fiction sold much better--now, I'm just as bad as he is
I posted a couple of non-fiction books which sold some copies--unlike my beloved fictional creations, that are not setting the world on fire

still, I can't help but think, these non-fiction books--really---I just can't express my feelings

back to literary--I've learned that a good way not to get read is to label a book literary

yet, these are the ones I like

I don't need to read a murder mystery--I can watch the gruesome evening news on TV

romance? what, to skim a book for the few pages that interest me? on the other hand, romantic comedies are what I like best--

but, what the hell, damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead--no more of this non-fiction crap---I hope!
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Re: do folks buy fiction anymore? should you write literary fiction?
Posted: Apr 2, 2015 7:25 AM   in response to: openhearted in response to: openhearted
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It's a fact that selling non-fiction is a lot easier than fiction. If you're writing literary fiction, forget it. (I know from experience). The only people making money in the self-publishing world are people selling things (such as non-fiction) to people who want to be writers.
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 8:49 AM   in response to: openhearted in response to: openhearted
 
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Twenty-some years ago, I had a workmate that made wind chimes. She loved wind chimes. She gave them for Christmas and birthday gifts, hung them in the forest, had them all over her house. Hand made wind chimes everywhere.
One day, someone told her she should open a business and sell her wind chimes. That's exactly what she did. Quit her job, found a shop to lease for six months, hung wind chimes from the ceiling, made a sign for outside. At first, people that had received wind chime gifts from her in the past went in to see what she had, many of them making purchases. But then she realized that since her wind chimes were now a part of her business, she would no longer give them away free. When the free gifts of wind chimes stopped, so did the traffic into her store. She had lots of customers in December. Then January, February, March, April, May came along. Wind chimes could be found in any store in town in spring, and at half the price of what she sold hers.
In the end, she spent thousands of dollars on a business that lasted six months, to make a few hundred. She got her old job back again, and returned to handing out wind chimes at Christmas and birthdays.

Her problem was that she didn't have an ounce of business sense in her brain. She was no more suited to selling wind chimes than she would've been selling nuclear waste. Were her wind chimes any good? Sure, they were cute and made a tinkling sound. Were they twice as good as what could be found in other stores? Maybe, maybe not. The point is, the customers didn't see twice as much value in her wind chimes as in any other wind chime.

The last I heard, she got married, quit her job, had a couple of kids, and lives on Maui, where she continues to make wind chimes to give as Christmas and birthday gifts.
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 8:51 AM   in response to: openhearted in response to: openhearted
 
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Lots of people, myself included, read both. Often I will be shifting back and forth between them.
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 9:02 AM   in response to: sprinkles in response to: sprinkles
 
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For some reason I really like that story:)

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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 9:02 AM   in response to: openhearted in response to: openhearted
 
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How about a well mixed, but not stirred, cocktail of fiction and non-fiction, like annexing colourful creative fiction to foundation of solid true lfe experiences? Similar to
creating a cake in layers and sprinkles, maybe? Dee Tezelli, Seattle
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 7:39 PM   in response to: Villageoise in response to: Villageoise
 
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Villageoise wrote:
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On the subject of literary fiction, I have as yet to find out exactly what that means.


I agree. What's the difference between fiction and "literary" fiction? If any.
Patrick A. Smith

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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 8:22 PM   in response to: Etienne in response to: Etienne
 
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I just looked it up and it said that literary fiction is fiction that doesn't fit into any genre. I don't think there is any such thing as a fiction book that isn't in a certain genre (category). How could there be?
Jonathan Racioppi

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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 10:03 PM   in response to: Etienne in response to: Etienne
 
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Wikipedia has one of the better explanations. I researched it when I finished my book because it falls under the genre.

"Literary fiction is a term principally used for certain fictional works that hold literary merit. In other words, they are works that offer deliberate commentary on larger social issues, political issues, or focus on the individual to explore some part of the human condition. Literary fiction is deliberately written in dialogue with existing works created with the above aims in mind. Literary fiction is focused more on themes than on plot."

This page also goes in detail and explains it pretty well: http://www.novel-writing-help.com/literary-fiction.html
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Posted: Apr 2, 2015 10:56 PM   in response to: Jonathan Racioppi in response to: Jonathan Racioppi
 
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That sounds pretty good except for one thing: A genre is a category so "Literary fiction" is a genre! LOL
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Posted: Apr 3, 2015 9:01 AM   in response to: Jonathan Racioppi in response to: Jonathan Racioppi
 
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Jonathan Racioppi wrote:
Wikipedia has one of the better explanations. I researched it when I finished my book because it falls under the genre.

"Literary fiction is a term principally used for certain fictional works that hold literary merit. In other words, they are works that offer deliberate commentary on larger social issues, political issues, or focus on the individual to explore some part of the human condition. Literary fiction is deliberately written in dialogue with existing works created with the above aims in mind. Literary fiction is focused more on themes than on plot."


Says who? What authority decided that, and what are their credentials?
Just asking.
Jonathan Racioppi

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Posted: Apr 3, 2015 9:41 AM   in response to: Etienne in response to: Etienne
 
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It's the general idea of it everywhere I have read thus far, online. Wiki just explains it best in a very short manner. The other link is only one example from someone else, there are plenty of other examples to be found.
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Posted: Apr 3, 2015 10:29 AM   in response to: Jonathan Racioppi in response to: Jonathan Racioppi
 
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People don't buy a lot of print literary fiction. That doesn't mean you don't write it if you have a book that needs to be written.
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Posted: Apr 3, 2015 11:51 AM   in response to: Jonathan Racioppi in response to: Jonathan Racioppi
 
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Jonathan Racioppi wrote:
Wikipedia has one of the better explanations. I researched it when I finished my book because it falls under the genre.

"Literary fiction is a term principally used for certain fictional works that hold literary merit. In other words, they are works that offer deliberate commentary on larger social issues, political issues, or focus on the individual to explore some part of the human condition. Literary fiction is deliberately written in dialogue with existing works created with the above aims in mind. Literary fiction is focused more on themes than on plot."


So, by that definition, my novel about an investigative reporter who exposes a pedophile televangelist is literary fiction - because it offers commentary on social issues?
Ditto book two of the trilogy, in which the reporter exposes a pedophile priest? And ditto, book three, which will be out this month, in which the reporter exposes a corrupt senator who has been caught in bed with both a dead girl and a live boy, on different occasions, and bribed his way out of trouble each time.

Or, using that definition, Vol One of Mercedes Lackey's "Last Herald Mage" trilogy, which is arguably one of the best coming of age stories ever written, is literary fiction because it deals with one young man coming to terms with his sexuality?

Somehow, I think there must be more to it than the above.
Jonathan Racioppi

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Posted: Apr 3, 2015 12:07 PM   in response to: Etienne in response to: Etienne
 
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Possibly, I don't know. There's certain aspects that set it apart, which is why the other link I posted is a good read. It depends on deeper elements it seems. Otherwise, research it further yourself - I'm just the messenger here.
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