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Gintaras

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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 21, 2016 5:43 PM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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I wish you a good mood. writer Gintaras Kavarskas
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 22, 2016 11:38 AM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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People who've mentioned retirement may have hit on it. During the heyday of my writing career (the 1990s, mainly) I had a part-time day job, around 30 hours a week, and writing supplied about 40% of my income, which was adequate to support a family, while publishing a novel or two a year. Around the turn of the century, my IT career took off, and my writing dwindled to one or two short stories a year. I retired at the end of 2012, and have written a bit over 500,000 words since. Although gardening and home renovation seem to have picked up where that old part-time job left off...
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 22, 2016 3:14 PM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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Ha!

A looooong time ago I wrote to the late Claire Raynor (remember her, my British friends?). She was an agony aunt for a newspaper and I wrote in my 'agony' when I was about 16 asking her for advice on becoming a writer full time. I told her I'd just left school and wasn't interested in getting a job because all I wanted to do was write.

Suffice to say, my sails have only just got their wind back.

The folly of youth...
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 22, 2016 4:54 PM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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Claire Raynor. Now there's a name that brings back memories of a different time. Her agony aunt advice certainly didn't pull any punches. Those cynical Fleet Street types!
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 22, 2016 10:00 PM   in response to: louisewise in response to: louisewise
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louisewise wrote:
Ha!

A looooong time ago I wrote to the late Claire Raynor (remember her, my British friends?). She was an agony aunt for a newspaper and I wrote in my 'agony' when I was about 16 asking her for advice on becoming a writer full time. I told her I'd just left school and wasn't interested in getting a job because all I wanted to do was write.

Suffice to say, my sails have only just got their wind back.

The folly of youth...

I think I remember reading your letter!
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 22, 2016 10:20 PM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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Is this for real? Someone is pleading for financial assistance. This is a writer's forum; not a soup kitchen. Hell Bells! All the burger joints are hiring. If you can't write, and you don't want to flip burgers, then it's the 'Rescue Mission' for you. W2
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 23, 2016 7:52 AM   in response to: senior chips in response to: senior chips
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Thank you for a good laugh! I chased my husband across the house and made him read it too!

Every morning I log on and read the latest posts in this community - I learn a lot and I always find something fun, wise, and meaningful to me.

Dear OP: You know, having a job outside of writing doesn't have to be perceived as a negative thing. It can be an opportunity to explore your other talents and passions while you keep up your writing. I grow organic veggies, which brings me loads of joy and contentment as well as financial benefits. Nature tends to avoid monocultures; everyone has multiple talents and skills. While you're working a scut job to pay the bills (which we've all done!) explore different career options and find the one that fits you.

I'll bet I'm not the only writer happy in my day job. I'm curious what other careers are represented in the author community - anyone want to share?
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Feb 23, 2016 8:45 AM   in response to: Marjorie Jones in response to: Marjorie Jones
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Edited by: janni2525 on Dec 20, 2016 8:51 AM
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 28, 2016 8:45 PM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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I gave up on the idea of living on my writing for a long time when I heard that Jean Johnson had to get a day job. She has over twenty books published and by a proper publisher and if she can't make ends meet you'd have to be darn lucky to make any real money with writing. I should get that lotto ticket. I'd have as much chance of winning as making money with writing. Good thing I'm not doing it for the money.
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 28, 2016 9:57 PM   in response to: 10blade in response to: 10blade
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Mods delete this reply, wrong thread.

Edited by: Kristijan on Dec 28, 2016 9:59 PM
Natasja

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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 28, 2016 11:08 PM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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Throughout History, writers have either been independently wealthy or supported by a partner, worked, or spent many years penniless.

The Short answer to your question: You don't.

All writers, even the Greats, worked a normal job before they hit stardom. JRR Tolkien was a University Professor. Terry Pratchett worked a variety of jobs. JK Rowling was a single Mum on the poverty line. The best advice my parents ever gave me was "Don't quit your day-job."
Writing has a lot of hidden costs, like paying an editor, publishing, promotion... and that money has to come from somewhere. Writing also takes time, and you still have to eat and live while your book is in the works. I work in a care facility, and usually manage an hour or so of writing during the night shifts. Occasionally, someone will say something that triggers a creative spark.
That job pays the bills and lets me have a place to live while I do what I love.

Alternatively, Patreon and Crowdfunding are also options.

Edited by: Natasja on Dec 28, 2016 11:14 PM
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 29, 2016 5:32 AM   in response to: soulfriend in response to: soulfriend
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I can't survive on my royaltes on my 6 books alone.
I do 3 jobs just to get by.
As well as writing my number 7 book,, I write 2 blogs as well.
Even my Lotto numbers don't come up either...
Making the most of the Christmas holidays....by doing a lot of writing....Ho Ho Ho
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 29, 2016 2:12 PM   in response to: Florrie Person in response to: Florrie Person
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if it was just hard work and talent then 50 shades wouldn't be a thing. Yes, hard work and talent are important but luck plays a part like most creative industries. I've known artists, singers and writers that are better than pop stars and Cezanne and best sellers but without a break or some luck they are still unknowns. Look at Van Gogh. In his lifetime he sold a grand total of one painting and that was to a friend. No one can say he didn't work hard or that he didn't have talent. There has to be another element to the equation, I call it luck. Others might call it something else but hard work and talent are not the only thing needed for success in this industry.
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 29, 2016 9:45 PM   in response to: nicola pike in response to: nicola pike
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Exactly.

Hard work is good, talent is better, but opportunity and luck are what make the difference.
50 Shades had a large fan fiction following, and the author that a background in marketing, as well as a lot of contacts in the literature and film industry.
JK Rowling approached several different publishers, and even when one of them finally took her up on it, she still waited a few years before her books became mainstream.
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Re: However an author live without financial help ?
Posted: Dec 30, 2016 2:02 AM   in response to: Florrie Person in response to: Florrie Person
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Florrie Person wrote:
. I don't know what a Cezanne is.

Paul C├ęzanne, a post impressionist artist. This is probably the first time, however, I've see him being used as representative of great artists. I know who he is, but I doubt I'd recognize a single one of his works as being his.
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