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Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 7, 2017 2:09 AM
 
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Hello
I understand this question has been asked over and over again but I still can't find an answer to match my exact question! I have uploaded my completed manuscript to the previewer and all is correct when you look at the book on different versions. The first paragraph isn't indented as I wanted and the following are to 0.3. However when I download to mobi all goes astray and the first is indented to 0.5 and the rest as I wanted 0.3. On the laptop version this doesn't happen and as I said, the previewer shows it how I wanted it.

Is there anyway to fix this? Or is the mobi download that I am seeing on my iPhone not what other people would see if they bought the novel? I don't want to fiddle around and change things if it isn't actually a problem and only a problem on the mobi copy I'm emailing to my kindle app. Has anyone tried indenting first line to 0.01 and it actually has worked?

Many thanks!
Emily
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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 7, 2017 6:11 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Think I've sorted it! I tried the 0.01 indent for every start of chapter or scene break and tested it after a couple chapters back on KDP, then converted to mobi on iPhone and it worked! Just need to trawl through novel now checking every single indent, unless anyone knows a quicker way of doing this? Thanks!
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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 7, 2017 8:10 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Emily Ruth Megan Williams wrote:
Think I've sorted it! I tried the 0.01 indent for every start of chapter or scene break and tested it after a couple chapters back on KDP, then converted to mobi on iPhone and it worked! Just need to trawl through novel now checking every single indent, unless anyone knows a quicker way of doing this? Thanks!

Using Word? If you don't want a paragraph indented, you must format it that way, as opposed to just taking out the indent. Formatting with an indent of 0.01 or 0.001 is the best way. During conversion, if no indent is detected, a standard of 0.5 will be inserted. That's why people who use tabs for indents or take out indents with backspace get unexpected results. At least you only have to worry about individually formatting beginning paragraphs and not all of them by hand. Good luck with your book.

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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 7, 2017 9:58 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Thank you :-). Yes using word. I did at first use tabs and then after research realised my mistake! I used the ^t to find and replace all tab indents then started again! The formatting after conversion was much better that way except those pesky first line indents! But thank you, yes the 0.01 has worked a treat. Many thanks.
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Posted: Feb 7, 2017 11:11 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Emily Ruth Megan Williams wrote:
Thank you :-). Yes using word. I did at first use tabs and then after research realised my mistake! I used the ^t to find and replace all tab indents then started again! The formatting after conversion was much better that way except those pesky first line indents! But thank you, yes the 0.01 has worked a treat. Many thanks.

I use Word 2002. Despite what people say about Word (it has many detractors, though many more use it), I have found the program very good for formatting novels, and others have used it to good effect for more complex books. My first efforts at self-publishing were in print, so it took me awhile to get away from a word processing mindset to understand that everything in Word must be done with Styles & Formatting. I still do the print book first, but I format it so it can easily be converted from print to ebook. I go through the following steps:

1) Set page size to trim
2) Set margins, including gutter (mirror margins)
3) Open Format/Paragraph to set indent at 0.3 and to disable widow/orphan control
4) Set front material, then start text section with pagination
5) Open Styles & Formatting sidebar and set H1 attributes
6) Type novel, using, when necessary page breaks, 1st paragraph formatting and H1 highlighting

When I've finished the novel, the only steps I need to take are:

1) Eliminate design elements, such as splash page, peculiar to print design.
2) Eliminate pagination
3) Move whatever front material might be better located in the back
4) Change TOC from page numbers to links (a snap since chapter heads are still H1)
5) Enable links (Facebook, Amazon, GoodReads, etc) which were disabled for print

Since finally figuring out the computer was not a "magic typewriter," I haven't had any problems. Of course, those are just the mechanics of the books. They don't include the editing and proofing, ten times harder (at least) than the writing. I hope this helps. Again, good luck with with your book.

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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 8, 2017 12:45 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Great advice thank you. Think the majority of my formatting has been set up correctly. I did however not unmark the widows and orphans box which might explain why the bottom line keeps moving onto next page and causing a blank page, especially when uploading to createspace. Please could you tell me how to had a page at the back with links to amazon review page and goodreads. Is it simply a case of adding the links and they become clickable when the book is live? Many thanks!
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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 8, 2017 8:03 AM   in response to: Emily Ruth Mega... in response to: Emily Ruth Mega...
 
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Emily Ruth Megan Williams wrote:
Great advice thank you. Think the majority of my formatting has been set up correctly. I did however not unmark the widows and orphans box which might explain why the bottom line keeps moving onto next page and causing a blank page, especially when uploading to createspace. Please could you tell me how to had a page at the back with links to amazon review page and goodreads. Is it simply a case of adding the links and they become clickable when the book is live? Many thanks!

In Word, the easiest way to post an active link is to copy and paste. "Clean" links are necessary ... i.e., they don't have unnecessary elements such as search results. Short links such as you get from bitly and other places are good. For a print edition, you'd want to disable the link so it goes from blue to black. If you don't have a link go "live" when you post it into an e-book edition, you should be able to highlight it and choose to make it active.

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Re: Paragraph indenting on first line
Posted: Feb 12, 2017 8:11 AM   in response to: Ralph E Vaughan in response to: Ralph E Vaughan
 
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Thank you for your help :-)
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