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openhearted

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Re: Hey! Is it just me or is ebook sales literally dead right now?
Posted: Mar 18, 2017 7:16 AM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
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where are these impressions and clicks thou hast spoken of?

I see them on twitter analytics--but it seems like twitter is tanking too

here, Canada is invisible, Australia is asleep, France has gone begging, the Dutch have never existed, India is nowhere

oh
Rob Hackney

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 7:31 AM   in response to: openhearted in response to: openhearted
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India has been nowhere for me too, except when I boosted a post for my series on Facebook with global visibility. I got hundreds of 'Likes' on the post itself from people living in India -- and pretty much only India -- but no additional page actions, CTR, or actions on my web site from that entire continent. To my suspicious mind that looked like some means of pushing up costs for FB advertisers using the "pay per engagement" option. Suffice to say I now specify countries where I want the ads to appear, and India is not one of them.
writerbn

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 8:03 AM   in response to: Rob Hackney in response to: Rob Hackney
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Rob Hackney wrote:
Suffice to say I now specify countries where I want the ads to appear, and India is not one of them.
India is a tricky market. I used to do well there, until the Zon cut the Kay Yu payout to less than 1/4 the US payout. if you want to sell books there, you have to understand the culture and write books targeted to Indian readers.

In the long run, though, you're probably best ignoring the Indian market, unless Kay Yu changes. Close to 90% of my Indian readers use Kay Yu.
Rob Hackney

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 8:11 AM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
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My books are still available on the A'zon India site, I just de-target India now for FB marketing as a defensive measure.
Regional targeting at a cultural level is yet one more marketing aspect I really ought to get my head around!
jacqueline coote

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Posted: Mar 18, 2017 6:24 PM   in response to: Ryan in response to: Ryan
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Everyone has some sort of reason why sales are down, not showing up, etc. There is something not right with the whole system.

You can all make excuses as to why the reports are not accurate, but it seems to me that Amazon is not doing it's job, or if it is, it is not letting us in on what is actually going on in the market.

I give Amazon one more year, then I will pull my books from KDP. I make better sales with my paperbacks at a local craft show, then waiting for Kindle sales. A person can get old waiting for sales from KDP.
Gary O'Riley

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Posted: Mar 19, 2017 2:31 AM   in response to: jacqueline coote in response to: jacqueline coote
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jacqueline coote wrote:
Everyone has some sort of reason why sales are down, not showing up, etc. There is something not right with the whole system.

You can all make excuses as to why the reports are not accurate, but it seems to me that Amazon is not doing it's job, or if it is, it is not letting us in on what is actually going on in the market.

I completely agree with you. Something is going on (probably linked to algorithms)...but the frustrating thing about this thread is that people keep popping up and suggesting it's down to the Trump effect, which is utterly ridiculous. Like a few others on here, I'm from the UK. Apart from the Trump effect, we are dealing with Brexit and a possible second referendum on Scottish independence...BUT LIFE GOES ON...perhaps retail sales might be down a bit and perhaps some folk are holding off on longer term plans...but none of this explains the collapse of KDP sales.

I wish people would stop letting Amazon of the hook, buy making a range of excuses.

Wilai Lattimore

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Posted: Mar 19, 2017 3:05 AM   in response to: Gary O'Riley in response to: Gary O'Riley
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They are trying to beat the dip in sales by adjusting the algorithms to favour the better selling authors. I'm in the UK and see many distractions. Amazon must be feeling the pinch and we're suffering. This is the norm, so we'd better get used to it.

I released a new title on Friday and its doing okay, so I'm not complaining.
Ryan

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Posted: Mar 19, 2017 5:48 AM   in response to: Ryan in response to: Ryan
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I should mention that my book sales r decent... surprisingly... doing better than kindle.. though, they have always been decent, just out of nowhere seem to be surpassing kindle sales..
Theresa M. Moore

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Posted: Mar 20, 2017 4:32 PM   in response to: wellhouse in response to: wellhouse
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That doesn't work in my case. I've been writing since my teens, and I can see how people would find that amazing, but if I can't grab any eyeballs I might as well give up writing.
Ryan

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Posted: Mar 20, 2017 5:39 PM   in response to: Theresa M. Moore in response to: Theresa M. Moore
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You should not give up writing if u have ideas.. u never know when u will hit a big one.. and it depends what u r writing..the cover, the length of book, quality, description, they way u present urself..lots of factors why u dont sell.. or u may need to market if u can afford to...i cant say for sure unless u show me ur most popular book

many people write as a hobby, not to make money, it does not hurt to write a couple of hours every other day.. everyone is a writer, but not everyone can make money writing

ive made lots of money and still do, yet it has been slow..

and ive had bombs.. on many books.. so far ive had 2 hits and 1 on going hit.. i wont say what my books r for obvious reasons.. it is better to stay anonymous.. the last time i revealed my book i received an attack of one star reviews from people using these forums...however, the book is not there anymore.. that is one of the books that will not sell no matter what i do.. its a shame.. i had lots of fun writing it..
allan dudson

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Posted: Mar 27, 2017 12:22 AM   in response to: Ryan in response to: Ryan
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This is getting strange... Between 18th and 20th March, I had 10 sales of e-book and since then only 2. It has flatlined again and that is not good. I sure hope it picks up again soon.
All the best... Allan.
Ronald T. Gipson

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Posted: May 6, 2017 8:16 PM   in response to: Ryan in response to: Ryan
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My ebook sales have been almost nonexistent for over a year. While the paperback version has generally sold consistently I have never been able to generate consistent sales with the ebook. Perhaps this is due to the fact that I rarely price the book below $ 7.49, which is half the price of the paperback. Also the book is a biography on a political leader (Al Gore) and most of my sales seem to derive from college students and libraries. Good discussion !
Notjohn

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Posted: May 7, 2017 4:14 AM   in response to: Ronald T. Gipson in response to: Ronald T. Gipson
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I appreciate that "right now" was meant to apply to the month of March, but I am just back from a bit of travel and have toted up my sales for April, with this result: April 2017 is my worst month for numbers of books and for dollar totals since some time in 2010. Alas, I no longer have the monthly totals for seven years ago.

I began publishing through the DTP (as it was then called) in November 2007, when it really appeared that Amazon had devised a method for transforming typing paper into greenbacks. Each year was better than the year before. For me, the tide crested in January 2012, and sales have pretty much been on a downslope since then. They plateaued for a while last summer, and even improved a bit, but they hit a new low last month.

Curiously, paperback sales have gone up a bit each year, and there are some months in which my print sales are greater than that of the ebooks on Amazon.com. (Totaling up other Amazon stores, Barnes & Noble, Apple, etc. does bring ebooks out on top.) However, those print sales are almost entirely of my non-fiction books, so my experience may not be typical.

But in brief: April 2017 was really, really bad, and March 2017 wasn't a whole lot better.

Good luck! -- NJ

The book: Notjohn's Guide to E-Book Formatting (and print as well!)

The blog: http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
Jonathan B

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Posted: May 7, 2017 8:50 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Notjohn wrote:
Curiously, paperback sales have gone up a bit each year, and there are some months in which my print sales are greater than that of the ebooks on Amazon.com. (Totaling up other Amazon stores, Barnes & Noble, Apple, etc. does bring ebooks out on top.) However, those print sales are almost entirely of my non-fiction books, so my experience may not be typical.

My eBook sales were decent last month; I've had better, but I've certainly had worse. But curiously, this was my best month ever for paperbacks by a healthy margin.

Hans Brunner

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Posted: May 12, 2017 12:29 AM   in response to: Ryan in response to: Ryan
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Never, ever give up. Write a killer story and it will sell in any form and on any platform. I believe some of the genres on Amazon are by now absolutely over-crowded. This also affects the marketing. You simply can't afford the 10 clicks you need to sell one book. We all can write, some of us can make money from it. Some make a lot.... it's the same in every job. As an Indie writer you are self-employed. The survival rate of small owner operator businesses is very,very low. I used Kindle only to let people read my paperback nonfiction reference books. I make around $ 200 per month on Creatspace and only $ 20 on Kindle. I also sell the books on my site, bookstores and eBay. It's not a living but a good sideline. Recently I went back to fiction. I chose a field I liked - historical fiction based on true events. I can't stand all the made up stuff any more but that's me. In my youth I was a trad pub author, went through 6 publishers, most of them are no more. Things change. We change. I love going Indie this time around. I gave myself a new identity, set up all the usual channels, used my own ISBN, published everywhere i.e. Createspace, Kindle, Ingram Spark. I set myself an advertising budget of $ 2,000. That's how much some new authors pay a vanity publisher for nothing. Two weeks in I can see a good start. KENP blue line never touches the bottom line and honed in at 200 per day. I get one click out of 800 imprints on my Amazon ad and I sell one copy per 8 clicks. I pay 19 cents for my clicks but I will fine tune that later on. I did not start advertising the paperback yet but it seems that I get about one paperback sale for every ten sold Kindle copies. It's not big money but it's a good start. I rubbished Amazon many times for their secrecy. I worked for USA Today. We had to have our circulation numbers audited, Amazon doesn't even tell you how they come up with theirs. Still, they really have improved their marketing tools with the inclusion of up to 1,000 of your own search words. It pays to spend a lot of time with them! I can understand the frustration of authors but I see all this as a natural maturing process. eBooks got shorter and shorter, fuelled by the tired old mantra: Write more, sell more. Maybe all this will end up where it should have started: writer better, sell more. Interesting times ahead and good luck to all of us.

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