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B.L. Alley

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 18, 2017 10:11 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
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Perhaps, but it's certainly tarnishing the image of indie publishing. People see the zero-effort garbage flooding the resellers and give up, returning to the books from mainstream publishers.
Patrick A. Smith

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 19, 2017 12:01 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
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uncle1282 wrote:
Nothing has or is or will be killing Indie publishing. Not traditional publishing, not foolish critics, not misinformed writers.

One thing, i wish they would put those 50 or 100 stories for .99 etc, in a different category of their own!
uncle1282

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 19, 2017 10:33 AM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
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Seriously, how many readers look for a certain publisher or kind of publisher? Few. I've never sought books by Random House over books by Joe Blow. If the cover and blurb and read ahead interest me, I buy.

As for images and stigma and all that jazz, times are changing. Is there less stigma for self published now than say 10 years ago? Sure. Did Mark Twain or Stephen Crane have stigma at first? Maybe. Control has shifted away from editors, publishers and gatekeepers to readers, the people. If an Indie makes the mistake of putting out poor product, then he's tarnishing his own image, not all of Indie publishing. There are no scarlet A's on books by Indies, after all.
Boris Cohen

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 19, 2017 11:34 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
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uncle1282 wrote:
I agree completely. The perfect can be the enemy of the good. When I see my work as good enough, it usually is my best. When I read it over a year or two later, it surprises me that I was even able to write it. When I get that glow I know I didn't publish too soon. So back off this guy. He has a truth to tell.
Thank you.
Patrick A. Smith

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 19, 2017 3:07 PM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
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uncle1282 wrote:
Nothing has or is or will be killing Indie publishing. Not traditional publishing, not foolish critics, not misinformed writers.

Thank you for saying that!!!
Lisa A Lee

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 20, 2017 3:08 PM   in response to: Boris Cohen in response to: Boris Cohen
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Hello,

My name is Lisa Lee I'm new to this forum and new to KDP. I just recently published my first graphic novel under the pen name ellex deux. For a while I had twinge of doubt about sharing it with the rest of the world but I thought what the heck, just take the leap of faith and see where it goes from there. I guess the first post of this thread pretty much echoed in my head when I took that leap. I know it can use great deal of improvement and I do intend to edit and republish in the future, once my head clears and I reread my book to catch what I didn't before. And any advices and feedbacks will be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time!
resteasy

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 20, 2017 5:06 PM   in response to: Lisa A Lee in response to: Lisa A Lee
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It's usually best to 'just publish' when you're confident you've done the best job you can. Bunging something up without first properly editing, rereading will likely reward you with poor reviews and ratings. Yes, you can get paranoid about wondering if it's your best, and there's never a hundred percent certainty, but never publish with the aim of editing, proofreading as a job that knowingly needs doing later.
C. Gold

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: May 30, 2017 2:19 AM   in response to: resteasy in response to: resteasy
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You don't have to publish the first thing you write, in fact many well known authors didn't publish the first few books they wrote. I realize they went the traditional publishing route and were constantly rejected early on, but that forced them to keep writing and improving. Now I see these authors publishing those old works after a lot of reworking. They don't just slap what they wrote out in self publishing because they know what they wrote isn't as good as what they can do now.

I was helping a friend edit his books and the first one he wrote wound up being decent, but not really what he wanted. After writing a second book in a completely different series, he went back and rewrote the earlier one to be much better as it incorporated many of the technical elements he learned after writing the second.

I too wrote 69k words of a book I thought was pretty good before getting sidetracking by another book idea which had more balanced main characters and tighter plot. I'm now 44k words into the better story and really loving how it's coming together. I will go back to the first book once I'm done with the current one, but I can already see where it needs to be beefed up. I think for new authors, it's important to write a few things to settle into your style, work out the mechanics of story development and maybe skip publishing the first book just to see if after writing another you don't improve greatly to where you might become embarrassed at that first work. I want new authors to publish but it is sometimes a real downer to run into some of the really bad stuff out there.
Lazarian Wordsm...

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Re: JUST PUBLISH!
Posted: Jun 2, 2017 7:46 AM   in response to: Boris Cohen in response to: Boris Cohen
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Anybody read Stephen King on Writing where he speaks about the toolbox a writer needs.

Good advice all through this book.

Also Collins books on Punctuation where all the , and . and : and; etc., goes.....

Finally above my desk is The Victorian School Mistress Guide to Punctuation - just one page of rules. And best of all it's Public Domain.


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