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madhuronda

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Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 1:15 AM
 
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Indians(girls included) are making their entry felt in amazon kdp and it's a welcome development.few points to my Indian friends(esp girls)who are writing books on amazon
0.writing a book means a starting point(you'd know it only from your own experience)
1.title sells(amazon knows this secret)so write in a category that sells well(say fiction
romance/thriller/mystery/crime etc)if you want to make some money out of your book
2.content sells only if you market it well
3.last but not the least, write well, really well(one ground rule is, it(i.e book) should give different meanings to different people).if it stands test of time you will never listen to me!
4.proof read 'your own' writing well
5.universal appeal is important because what is important to you may not be important to your neighbor so do some research before writing a book.

note:I wrote "a pure lassie story" for amazon storyteller 2017 contest.It is given for free.do read it to support it and criticize it too.your questions are welcome.

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Edited by: madhuronda on May 19, 2017 1:24 AM
truejdk

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?can't I?
Posted: May 19, 2017 1:30 AM   in response to: madhuronda in response to: madhuronda
 
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No. No, you can't write well.
You contradict your own points.
"0.writing a book means a starting point"
No list starts at 0. Lists start from 1.
"1.title sells... so write in a category that sells well"
There's a sizeable thread discussing your title, and potential issues with it. Given your reluctance to accept this, perhaps you're not the best person to offer advice.
"2.content sells only if you market it well"
No. Content also needs to be interesting, and well written. Marketing plays a big part, but is not the only part. Content needs to appeal to an audience.
"3.last but not the least, write well, really well"
For one thing, it's not your last point. For another, it's poorly formatted, and missing basic punctuation - such as capital letters.
"4.proof read 'your own' writing well"
This only works if you have the skills and courage to properly proof read your work. If you don't understand basic punctuation, grammar, spelling, formatting, then your proof reading isn't worth a damn. Invest in someone else to do it for you.

So, to answer your question - "Why can't I am give suggestions... to write well?" - it's because your writing, punctuation, grammar, etc are fundamentally flawed. Raise your skills to a high quality, and then give advice.
writerbn

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 4:57 AM   in response to: madhuronda in response to: madhuronda
 
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You've been told several times, by different people, but apparently you choose to ignore the advice.

Physician, heal thyself. Practice what you preach. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Yadda, yadda, yadda...
Ward Rogers

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 9:04 AM   in response to: madhuronda in response to: madhuronda
 
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To put it bluntly, luv, everything you write is rubbish, you know absolutely nothing about formatting or marketing, and anyone who follows your advice is a bloody fool.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 9:59 AM   in response to: writerbn in response to: writerbn
 
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writerbn wrote:
You've been told several times, by different people, but apparently you choose to ignore the advice.

Physician, heal thyself. Practice what you preach. People who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. Yadda, yadda, yadda...

Oh, dear. Now s/he will think you're saying they're a doctor, a preacher or an architect.
writerbn

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 10:19 AM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
 
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Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
Oh, dear. Now s/he will think you're saying they're a doctor, a preacher or an architect.



(Sorry, I couldn't resist...)
Charles Domard

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 5:24 PM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
 
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Ward!!! Why do you call everyone's work a pile of rubbish? What is the name of your book? Put it out their so we can see what you're book is made of.
Elodie

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 6:07 PM   in response to: Charles Domard in response to: Charles Domard
 
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Ward just says what others think (no sugar coating, no nothing).
Some might call it harsh, some might call it a voice of reason.
Ward never asked for criticism or validation of any books, and therefore shouldn't have to link to anything.
Thomas Rendall

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 6:15 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
 
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Of course no need to link to anything. I agree. Yet being right - and one would think most smart people learn this as they get older, esp. much older - is not the most important thing. May not be coated with sugar, but it's coated.

It does not represent what I think.

Edited by: Thomas Rendall on May 19, 2017 7:53 PM
Elodie

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Posted: May 19, 2017 8:01 PM   in response to: Thomas Rendall in response to: Thomas Rendall
 
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Thomas Rendall wrote:
It does not represent what I think.
Hence others, and not everyone ;)
Thomas Rendall

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Posted: May 19, 2017 8:06 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
 
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no nothing? there's plenty of something in many of the posts. and it ain't sugar :)
Thomas Rendall

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 19, 2017 8:49 PM   in response to: Elodie in response to: Elodie
 
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it may read this thread's last posts but don't expect a response. it only bullies: goes after the beginners: the lesser talented: the lowest fruit: the weakest.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 20, 2017 12:18 AM   in response to: Thomas Rendall in response to: Thomas Rendall
 
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No one here wants to see anyone else fail, but truly bad indie books reflect on all of us. That's why we take the time to offer advice when it is asked for. In another thread, Elodie even took the time to do mock-up covers, for heaven's sake.

The OP in this thread came charging onto here, claiming to be an expert on writing and publishing, giving incorrect advice to others and trying desperately to promote his/her book. But it was not well written or formatted, had a misleading title, and when others pointed that out, all they got were arguments. There is obviously a cultural gap in this case, but the bulk of the Amazon market is in the US, so the writer needs to remember that.

In the other threads, Charles clearly is an inexperienced writer, but after jumping up and down and stamping his feet for a while, he has finally realized that his book has issues that need to be addressed, and has taken at least some of the advice to heart. He now has a much better attitude and hopefully he will publish a better book as a result.
ronda madhu

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 20, 2017 4:50 AM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
 
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Good observation,you(people) do have a helping 'heart'.every tree has its own seed.
Natasja

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Re: Why can't I am give suggestions[only to Indians] to write well?
Posted: May 20, 2017 6:07 AM   in response to: madhuronda in response to: madhuronda
 
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I'm not saying that you can't give suggestions, but you should make sure that you have the facts correct, first.

A published book is an end goal, not a starting point. The quality of your work reflects on all Indie authors, and having the kindle marketplace flooded with books that are barely acceptable as a first draft hurts everyone.
While a catchy title and cover will get attention, what category you write in means nothing if your work is an incoherent mess.
Everyone needs to do a bit of marketing, but good content will eventually sell itself. A reputation for bad content will result in everything and anything you write being avoided
The second half of this point is confusing, at best
Proof-read your writing, then get either a professional editor, or someone who at least knows what they're doing, to check it for errors that you may have missed
Write what you want to write, and more importantly what you want to read, because if you're writing something that you don't care about just for the royalties, it will show. If the author isn't invested, why should anyone else be?

By the way, no list begins with a 0, and it is vanishingly rare to write and not have some other form of income.
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