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James Hindle

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Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 20, 2017 9:22 AM
 
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Amazon has provided an inexpensive opportunity for book authors with their "publishing" services. It is appreciated. However, it would be a great benefit, if, after an author commits to the Kindle Select Unlimited program, Amazon found a way to provide ready feedback of an author's book activity in the program. Authors commit to Amazon—are subject to trusting Amazon—a progress report would be a simple but very helpful aid to the author; particularly vulnerable new authors with extremely limited sales and little if any, marketing experience. Come on, Amazon . . . , step up.
Ward Rogers

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 20, 2017 10:43 AM   in response to: James Hindle in response to: James Hindle
 
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James Hindle wrote:
Amazon has provided an inexpensive opportunity for book authors with their "publishing" services. It is appreciated. However, it would be a great benefit, if, after an author commits to the Kindle Select Unlimited program, Amazon found a way to provide ready feedback of an author's book activity in the program. Authors commit to Amazon—are subject to trusting Amazon—a progress report would be a simple but very helpful aid to the author; particularly vulnerable new authors with extremely limited sales and little if any, marketing experience. Come on, Amazon . . . , step up.

The feedback is represented in pages read and books sold. If you don't have any, your book is doing poorly. You already receive a monthly progress report in your Excel spreadsheets. How you use or fail to use the report, or any of the other accounting tools available, is up to you.

You're the publisher, not Amazon. Marketing is your business, not theirs. If you don't know how to market your book, it's up to you to learn. Bringing a book to market is an excruciating task, many times harder than writing, and is a job you cannot take a single break from, less you plummet back into obscurity. If you're not up to the task, you have three options:
  • Look for a publisher who will do the hard work for you
  • Settle for few sales/borrows and low royalties
  • Don't publish
Contrary to what you suggest, enrollment in Select is a business decision, nothing more. It's not for all writers or all books. If you choose to enroll in Select, Amazon only care about one thing -- that you adhere to the terms of your contract. There is no other relationship. Amazon is not your friend, and it's a mistake to think otherwise.
ClaesG

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 20, 2017 11:10 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
 
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You are absolutely right. Amazon is not your friend.
I have sold about 100 copies of a new book that I published this month. Via select this book has been read an additional 5 times (yes, something is broken). According to Amazon this is working as it should (I've been in touch with them twice). Before KU3 happened I would have had at least as many books read via select as I sold (often a few extra). Since we clearly disagree on whether it's working as it should I have now canceled all renewals when the 90 days periods expire. This will definitely earn me some extra money when I go wide to all the other stores. Select was great as long as it worked. Amazon owes me nothing and I am loyal to no one when it costs me money.

@James Hindle You can try BookReport for a better overview of your page read. Google it.
Notjohn

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Posted: Aug 20, 2017 3:56 PM   in response to: ClaesG in response to: ClaesG
 
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I have now canceled all renewals when the 90 days periods expire.

Very wise.

Good luck! -- NJ

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Nancy Richard

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 25, 2017 12:51 PM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
 
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Thank you Ward Rogers. Your comment gave excellent perspective.
Janis

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 3:22 PM   in response to: James Hindle in response to: James Hindle
 
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Hello!
I am using the promotional days (5 per every 3 months) to give away copies of my book. One of my friends informed me that one of her family wanted to obtain a free copy during the last promotion, but that the book was only available with Kindle Unlimited, not regular Kindle.
I am wondering if that's correct, or if the person who said that just didn't notice where to click for her book.
Janis
Donna St Felix

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 3:44 PM   in response to: Janis in response to: Janis
 
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Janis wrote:
Hello!
I am using the promotional days (5 per every 3 months) to give away copies of my book. One of my friends informed me that one of her family wanted to obtain a free copy during the last promotion, but that the book was only available with Kindle Unlimited, not regular Kindle.
I am wondering if that's correct, or if the person who said that just didn't notice where to click for her book.

You put the promotion up under the KU program.
cdalebrittain

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 26, 2017 4:25 PM   in response to: Janis in response to: Janis
 
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If your book is free, anyone can download it for free, whether or not they are in Kindle Unlimited. Your friend probably didn't know where to click. As a customer, she could have called customer service. (We authors aren't customers, by the way, but vendors.)

Though you didn't ask, giving away your only book isn't a good way to build sales. Sorry.
Notjohn

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Re: Kindle Unlimited Responses
Posted: Aug 27, 2017 2:29 AM   in response to: Janis in response to: Janis
 
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While the promotion runs, it shows free to purchase. The sad part of the KU biz is that the FREE FOR KU outshines everything else on the page. It's more of an advert for KU than for the book. That's one of many reasons I stay away from Select.

The larger question, of course, is: WHY GIVE IT AWAY? Doesn't that rather defeat the whole idea of publishing a book? Use KU if it pleases you, but don't give your life's blood away. As Cole Porter wrote:

Never give anything away, away, away
That you can sell.
Ev'ry night, ev'ry day,
Try to remember, ma belle,
Never give anything away, away, away
That you can sell.

Good luck! -- NJ

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