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Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 6:33 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
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You are not "making" them do anything. You simply state that the book is for free in exchange for leaving a review, good or bad. You make it sound like they are getting the book for free and then you surprise them afterward with the cost of the book. The agreement is upfront. They get something and the author gets something. You can calm down now. It was just an idea. Nothing to panic about. Take a deep breath. Nobody here is trying to alter the rigid rules of life you so enjoy living by. Just lay down, close your eyes and repeat after me, "Om, Om, Om...." There are plenty of other posts on these boards for you to ridicule and criticize tomorrow. But for today, just get some rest.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 6:48 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
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Yes, I am aware of that. The point is that it would be nice if Amazon allowed for an author to send one (1) email (screened by Amazon if you wish) to the person who read your book. It is only for specific people who read your book. It is not a mass spam email to the universe. And as you say, they can always opt out. I get emails from people I have never had any dealings with whatsoever. I don't even open it. One mouse click, and it is gone. I don't walk around all day rethinking to myself, "The audacity of that person trying to send me an email" "I need to report this to the authorities!" "Oh my goodness!" "Om, Om, Om..."
Emily Veinglory

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 9:28 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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They can only permit that if they get the customer to explicitly opt in the mailings from third parties. I am not even 100% that is legally possible. It certainly would expose them to some liability because eventually some idiot would send something wildly inappropriate. if I was Amazon, I don't think i would do it.
jm14

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 11:19 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote at 6:42am August 28:
I will end this verbal tennis match as it has gotten too out of control and is not contributing anything positive to the boards.

Not a man of your word either, eh?
Ward Rogers

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 1:29 PM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Jack McEwan wrote:
...The point is that it would be nice if Amazon allowed for an author to send one (1) email (screened by Amazon if you wish) to the person who read your book....

No, it wouldn't "nice" at all. The proof is that Amazon used to allow writers to send a personal message to customers when they had pre-orders or new releases. Now they don't. Why? Because of obsessive, immature and pathetically needy prats who used the opportunity to plead for purchases and beg for reviews. Amazon shut that down pdq because of complaining customers who held Amazon responsible for exposing them to abusive e-mails. And you want Amazon to go that road again.

You know, Jackie, I'm waiting for some kind of a reason why readers owe you a single blessed thing. I'll probably wait in vain, though, since you're so tired of this tennis match. Can't blame you. If I'd played for so long without scoring even a single point, I'd be discouraged too. Cheers.
George Garrigues

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 7:25 PM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Very nice response. Thanks.
George Garrigues

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 30, 2017 7:35 PM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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Oh, pooh! I was born in 1932, and I can congratulate you on the clever way you deal with words, with no misspellings or grammatical trip-ups to my old eyes, but I take umbrage at age-ism. Here, have some of my umbrage; I have plenty for any youngster who wants one. Good luck, and good writing! I wish you the best.
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 31, 2017 7:47 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
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If you or others had made this particular statement, specifically the first two sentences right from the beginning, and stated it politely, it would have answered my question. It makes perfect sense. Instead, my question, as a new writer, was answered with snide, condescending remarks. You stated that the "idea" I had was part of the policy at one point, but Amazon rescinded it due to customer complaints because authors and sellers were abusing the privilege. Perfect answer. End of story. If someone had said that without an air of authoritative arrogance a week ago, I would have been satisfied with that response and would not have felt the need to dig my heels in.

Thank you for clearing this up.

Jack
Jack McEwan

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Aug 31, 2017 7:52 AM   in response to: jm14 in response to: jm14
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I have to admit that I did allow myself to get sucked back into the argument. Mr. Ward gave me the answer within the first two sentences of his latest post.
tommy london

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Re: Feedback for feedback
Posted: Sep 1, 2017 10:21 AM   in response to: Jack McEwan in response to: Jack McEwan
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We are beyond reviews here. The political issues we encountered last year are now
even worse and go unresolved. To wit:

Amazon for some reason this summer may not pay us the amount we deserve. That
goes for documented pages read, books sold, etc. clearly visible on our "Reports"
page, which, while it technically has improved, has not gotten us authors results.

(Sound familiar? Technical issues are easy to solve... but politics is abysmal.)

Trade talks in Canada & other New World nations have been in the tubes (or toilet)
for long now. (I mean about the USA.) So that American authors (who may sympathize
with us) can hire lawyers, sue The Zon, and get their money that way. Anyone who is not
an American cannot do this. That goes for Europe, too. And until the Schengen Treaty has
been fixed, that will be an issue.

We did, yes, go to foreign - aka not the US - publishers who are treating us very good, thank you.
They may even pay us. We shall see later this Fall. The world economy may be in for a real crash
soonest. (like this September.) That may help my cause. Amen.
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