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winnie

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Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 5:17 AM
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I was asked to create a bookcover for a family member. But after uploading she checked out the Print Previewer and it appears the pdf file is scaled up. We loaded up a version with guiding lines in it (A bull black line where the book should be cut/trimline and a black dashed line on the folds for the book spine) and as you can see (in the image i'll try to attache) the lines dont match.
I found all my information to determen the size of my document in the Amazon file found here https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/00/01/00/02/17/60/10002176030.pdf
The document of my pdf measyres 333,279 mm (lenth) by 234,6 mm (hight)
The book is 6" by 9". That meens 152,4 mm by 228,6 mm.
To calculate the book spine there where instructions also. Thebook will be printed Cream paper. So the instructions are multiply page count by 0.0025” (0.0635 mm).
Book has 354 pages so that meens the spine measures 22,479 mm
They also ask for 3 mm bleed.
So the Cover Height is calculated like this:
Cover Height = Bleed + Trim Height + Bleed
234,6 = 3 + 228.6 + 3
Cover Width is calculated like this:
Cover Width = Bleed + Back Cover Width + Spine Width + Front Cover Width + Bleed
333.279 = 3 + 152.4 + 22.479 + 152.4 + 3
So I think my measurements are fine but why does it scales in the previewer then?
Any help would be most welcome.

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 10:36 AM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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Hi Winnie,

Proportions seem good. Why not trying to reduce dimension of the cover?
Scale image at 98% or 99% should be OK.

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 10:58 AM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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The problem might be with the source file or even the conversion process from the source to .pdf.

Might try printing from the .pdf to see if dimension are really correct for the book size. That should help pinpoint where the problem starts. Correct dimensions printed would indicate something wrong between upload and preview. Incorrect dimensions would probably mean a problem in the original file layout or a hiccup in conversion from source to .pdf.

If results with testing indicate a problem with KDP contacting KDP would probably be the fastest route to correction.
booknookbiz

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 11:20 AM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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winnie wrote:
I was asked to create a bookcover for a family member. But after uploading she checked out the Print Previewer and it appears the pdf file is scaled up. We loaded up a version with guiding lines in it (A bull black line where the book should be cut/trimline and a black dashed line on the folds for the book spine) and as you can see (in the image i'll try to attache) the lines dont match.
(SNIP)
So I think my measurements are fine but why does it scales in the previewer then?
Any help would be most welcome.

You're not supposed to use the trim marks. At least, I can confirm that those are expressly NOT allowed at Createspace, and I see no reason whatsoever why that would be any different for KDP Print Beta. Try it without the crop and guiding lines. Working with a POD printer is not like working with your own offset printer. KDP PB probably scaled it to get rid of the cropmarks. That's my bet.

I didn't go over your math, to ensure that it's all right, but try eliminating the guides, first.

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winnie

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 3:18 PM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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Thanks already for all your answers.
I did not use createspace but adobe indesign to create a PDF for the bookcover.
I thought of trying to scaling it myself to get the lines to merge well. But it's a search to get the good zoom and I'm afraid it affects text sharpness.
I've used a contact for from kdp also. And the author got a phone call. She then explained the problem and they said the file looked right. They where going to see how the file behaves when printing and they placed a reminder for the pressman to pay extra attention to see if it's ok. Good client service.
I'm curious if it works out fine then.
Notjohn

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 21, 2017 4:17 AM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September last year. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for Independently published

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?

In exchange, you get that buggy publishing process, no physical proof copy, no discounted author copies for gift or resale, and no distribution to Barnes & Noble or to brick-and-mortar bookstores. (Most small bookstores will, as a favor to a customer and perhaps a small surcharge, order a Createspace or IngramSpark paperback.) If you don't live in the US, the proof copy and author's copies won't be as attractive, because of high shipping costs, but still....

My advice is to stick with CreateSpace with its excellent cover wizard, helpful community forum, and direct-to-author discounted sales. (If you don't live in the US, the physical proof copy and discounted author copies will be less attractive to you.)

(Use CreateSpace for paperbacks; use KDP for ebooks.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Monday Sadiku

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Re: Print Previewer changes cover size
Posted: Sep 22, 2017 4:54 PM   in response to: winnie in response to: winnie
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It is not a problem at all. It is expected to be so in accordance to the 0.125" margins you made use of while designing the cover, and it will be trimmed off during printing.

Edited by: Monday Sadiku on Sep 23, 2017 2:52 AM
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