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mike63031

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Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 19, 2017 11:47 AM
 
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When publishing for a paperback edition is the title page, copyright page, etc done by Amazon when printing or must those extra pages be part of the upload?

I ask because I'm working on it, and don't see those pages in the preview and putting them into the Word file screws up the page count.
Donna St Felix

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 2:28 AM   in response to: mike63031 in response to: mike63031
 
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mike63031 wrote:
When publishing for a paperback edition is the title page, copyright page, etc done by Amazon when printing or must those extra pages be part of the upload?

You must make everything part of your manuscript. Upload is in PDF.

I ask because I'm working on it, and don't see those pages in the preview and putting them into the Word file screws up the page count.

I assume you are trying to do a paperback at the Kindle site. That means you are using a beta program.
If you want a quality book, redo your manuscript (copy and work on that) for a paperback and upload at CreateSpace which is also Amazon.
Notjohn

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 2:36 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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You must make everything part of your manuscript. Upload is in PDF.

Very good advice.

If you want a quality book, redo your manuscript (copy and work on that) for a paperback and upload at CreateSpace

Also good advice.

KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September last year. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for Independently published

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?

In exchange, you get that buggy publishing process, no physical proof copy, no discounted author copies for gift or resale, and no distribution to Barnes & Noble or to brick-and-mortar bookstores. (Most small bookstores will, as a favor to a customer and perhaps a small surcharge, order a Createspace or IngramSpark paperback.) If you don't live in the US, the proof copy and author's copies won't be as attractive, because of high shipping costs, but still....

My advice is to stick with CreateSpace with its excellent cover wizard, helpful community forum, and direct-to-author discounted sales. (If you don't live in the US, the physical proof copy and discounted author copies will be less attractive to you.)

Use CreateSpace for paperbacks; use KDP for ebooks.

Good luck! -- NJ

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mike63031

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 4:36 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Donna St Felix wrote:
You must make everything part of your manuscript. Upload is in PDF.

After many revisions for formatting I uploaded as a .doc and it looks great in the preview screens.

You must make everything part of your manuscript. Upload is in PDF.

Thanks.
mike63031

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 5:01 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Notjohn wrote:


KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September last year. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for Independently published
Low quality in what way? Paper, printing, layout - something else?

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?
For some folks seeing reports for both on the same page is probably a huge advantage. One less sheet of reports at tax time can be a big time saver, too. Right now, doing my first book, for me it was advantageous because the process was done on the same page for both - didn't have to jump around to learn different platforms for the same book.

All that said, based on this and other threads I'll probably unpublish the paperback edition here and republish on Createspace. Both have a shared advantage - free.

And thanks for the welcome.
Ward Rogers

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 7:18 AM   in response to: mike63031 in response to: mike63031
 
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It's up to you as publisher to give your book a professional appearance. If you don't know what goes into the design of a paperback book (splash page, indicia, title page, publisher logo, etc) you either have to learn, or pay someone else to do what you can't. There are innumerable books available on the subject as well as many book design websites, or you could pull a dozen or so books from your shelves and analyze what professional publishers do. In this venue, you are them.
mike63031

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 11:23 AM   in response to: Ward Rogers in response to: Ward Rogers
 
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That answers my question how?
Notjohn

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 20, 2017 12:52 PM   in response to: mike63031 in response to: mike63031
 
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Low quality in what way? Paper, printing, layout - something else?

Badly written, clumsily formatted, amateurish in every way (the vast majority, not every one).

(Use CreateSpace for paperbacks; use KDP for ebooks.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Helen Garcia

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Re: Publishing for Paperback
Posted: Sep 22, 2017 2:47 AM   in response to: mike63031 in response to: mike63031
 
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