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Harry Hoge

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Problems Using Template :
Posted: Jun 17, 2017 11:24 AM
 
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Going for Paperback publication after posting E-Book with KDP; when I load multiple chapters after CHAPTER10 in the template, I get Blank spaces in the chapters without any indication why, and I don't know how to fix this. I am working with MS-WORD and have done this before without a problem. I am also showing ALL paragraph markers. Can someone help me delete these blank blocks?
cdalebrittain

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Re: Problems Using Template :
Posted: Jun 17, 2017 11:34 AM   in response to: Harry Hoge in response to: Harry Hoge
 
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Give us more detail.

You say you are "showing all paragraph markers." I hope you mean you have turned on "show invisibles" (and/or hit the pilcrow in the format bar), and not that the pilcrow (the backwards P for paragraph) is showing up in the pdf.

Did you just copy a formatted first couple pages of a chapter, put a page break at the end of Chapter 10, and paste in the formatted text? Then replace it with correct text? If so, it should have worked. If not, what did you do instead?

When you mention "blank spaces," do you mean toward the bottom of pages? Or elsewhere? If at the bottom of pages, try turning off widow/orphan control (it's under Format > Paragraph > Advanced at least on my version of Word). Word likes to have minimum numbers of lines on a page for each paragraph and may even try to keep all the lines in a paragraph together, causing a page break whenever you have a new paragraph near the bottom of a page.
Harry Hoge

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Re: Problems Using Template :
Posted: Jun 17, 2017 12:05 PM   in response to: cdalebrittain in response to: cdalebrittain
 
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I have had problems similar to this when converting other paperbacks from e-book. Using the Template with guidelines. What I do it copy and paste each chapter, one at a time- as numbered on the template. When I finish 9, I try to keep the format by adding by cut and paste all the remaining chapters and then deleting the guideline for Chapter 10. What I am seeing is the last page of chapters after 9 have the text staring at what looks like the 'Space down for the chapter heading' 21/2 inches from the top of the page. There are no paragraph markers or any spaces indicated simply black paper. I hope I'm clear .
Notjohn

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Re: Problems Using Template :
Posted: Jun 18, 2017 2:32 AM   in response to: Harry Hoge in response to: Harry Hoge
 
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Upload a PDF of your print-ready book.

KDP Print Beta was rolled out at the end of September. The process was buggy, and it seems to remain so to this day. The quality of the books that actually go on sale is rather low, as you can see by doing a search on Amazon for Independently published

Its sole advantage is that the author-publisher gets to see his or her paperback sales on the same page as the Kindle sales. But really, how big an advantage is that? How many seconds does it take, really, to check one's sales on Createspace--ten seconds, thirty seconds?

In exchange, you get that buggy publishing process, no physical proof copy, no discounted author copies for gift or resale, and no distribution to Barnes & Noble or to brick-and-mortar bookstores. (Most small bookstores will, as a favor to a customer and perhaps a small surcharge, order a Createspace or IngramSpark paperback.)

My advice is to stick with CreateSpace with its excellent cover wizard, helpful community forum, and direct-to-author discounted sales.

Good luck! -- NJ

The book: Notjohn's Guide to E-Book Formatting (and print as well!)

The blog: http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
cdalebrittain

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Re: Problems Using Template :
Posted: Jun 18, 2017 7:35 AM   in response to: Harry Hoge in response to: Harry Hoge
 
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Word likes to mess with our heads.

It sounds as though when you copied a chapter you somehow got the last paragraph of that chapter associated with the Paragraph Style for the Chapter Title of the following chapter.

Delete everything back to where it's working. Now copy the first page and second page (only) of Chapter 9. At the end of Chapter 9, hit a return, then a page break, then copy in your 2 pages. Copy the Chapter 10 text in on top of the abbreviated Chapter 9 text. It will keep on going past the 2 pages, which is what you want. This should work.

If it still gives you a blank space at the top of the last page of the chapter, put your cursor in the paragraph with the big space-before, and click Format > Paragraph from the menu bar. I am sure you will see a "space before" indicated of a couple inches. Change that to zero. Crude but effective.

And as NJ says, CreateSpace works a lot better than KDP-print Beta. Good luck!
Sue Boud

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Re: Problems Using Template :
Posted: Oct 2, 2017 7:39 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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I think there's an advantage to having a paperback added alongside your existing e book; people can read the reviews!
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