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uncle1282

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Sep 26, 2017 9:30 PM   in response to: R Butler in response to: R Butler
 
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The Chatto thing is a whole other story. But I don't have time to sit here and argue Twain with you. My work speaks for itself.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2017 10:18 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
 
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One thing I should add: Twain's publishers in England, principally Chatto & Windus, as well as his Continental publisher, Baron Tauchnitz, were given latitude to "adjust" works they published to conform to the cultures there. He never authorized line edits or any other actions we might think of as edits. As far as sharing works with his longtime friend Howells, these were not actual edits either, but only remarks as to impressions, suitability to Victorian taste and the like. Twain read many of Howell's novels and offered his opinion. Whenever his American publishers, including Elisha Bliss, tried to mess with his punctuation or word choice, Twain scalded them.

I repeat my claim: Twain was self-edited and, after problems with Bliss and others, was self-published through the front, Webster & Co. I should know as I've read all available letters from and to Twain, taking me nearly a decade to complete "Mark Twain Day By Day" in (4) 1,200 page volumes.
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Posted: Sep 27, 2017 10:31 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
 
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So let's see if I have this right, Twain had industry professionals who happened to be friends comment on his works, reviewed their comments and then decided what, if anything he would implement?

In what way does that differ from and edit.

Again, I will reiterate that even in Twain's case this "non-edit" scenario did no occur until he had found success. No one in this thread has seen the success of Twain and until they do, self editing with no outside input and review is a poor decision.
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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Sep 28, 2017 10:14 AM   in response to: R Butler in response to: R Butler
 
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You say it's poor, likely because you have some interest in editing; I say it's a great benefit for any writer to learn editing and to edit his own work. We'll have to leave it there.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 10:20 AM   in response to: uncle1282 in response to: uncle1282
 
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The only interest I have in editing is ensuring that my own books are well formed, professional and competitive and that the independent books I wish to download and read are not riddled with unnecessary issues.
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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 11:56 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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Hi Jamesfc

Have you considered offering your services on sites like Fiverr?

Robert
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Posted: Sep 28, 2017 12:58 PM   in response to: robert d dorazi in response to: robert d dorazi
 
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Hi Robert, I will most certainly take a look at this. The only thing is that I'm now retired so I don't want to overload myself. I get a lot of repeat editing.... have done 9 books for one author, 7 for another then 5 for the next one and so on, etc. They seem to come in at the average rate of 1-2 per week which is really all I need. I still offer Amazon newbies a 50% discount on their first books but will probably drop this discount shortly. I do this editing to keep my working wife from getting "cranky" with me. Ahhhh..... the joys of marriage!!

James

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Posted: Sep 29, 2017 9:36 PM   in response to: R Butler in response to: R Butler
 
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We have identical interests in that regard. I do save whatever others might pay to so-called professional editors, however.
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Posted: Oct 2, 2017 2:19 PM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I charge $9.99/1000 words for full punctuation, grammar, word selection, rearranging paragraphs, etc. (I am not soliciting business. I have a waiting list.)

In my opinion, it's best to hire an expert after you think you have about 2,000 words written to your highest standard. You could even send a couple chapters of a previous book.

I'm writing a book on the topic and took the first 281 words of a published book as an example. There were seven punctuation and grammar errors. That's one every 35.1 words.

I did a search for a few trite words, etc.

A rough estimate told me there was an error every 13.4 words.

Most writers make the same errors many times. It's best to catch them in the beginning so they don't continue the same errors throughout the book.
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Posted: Oct 4, 2017 2:02 AM   in response to: gershonbenfranja in response to: gershonbenfranja
 
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That's about right. I tend to notice anywhere from 15-40 corrections required per chapter of many of the books I edit.
I do 2-pass editing. Firstly I read the chapter ultra slowly then I go back to the chapter beginning and run it through a NZ Beta grammar program I'm testing. Much to my annoyance I often pick up an error I've missed. This is why the big publishers use 3-4 editors on their top books. Even then I've seen the occasional mistake.
Editing can be a slow boring task, particularly if the book content is not the type of thing I'd normally read.
But it keeps my wife off my back in my retirement. She forgets I've spent 35 years editing and am definitely losing my enthusiasm a bit. But I still enjoy most of the books.

James
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Posted: Oct 8, 2017 5:13 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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James, is this your website?
http://www.mindtech.com.vu/edit.htm

I want to contact you about editing. If your email hasn't changed I'll send you a letter today.
Thanks!
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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Oct 8, 2017 12:54 PM   in response to: Iren in response to: Iren
 
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Hi Irena, yes it is. I received your email and responded this morning.

Cheers

James

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Michael Morgan

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Re: What are current book editing costs? I'm just curious.
Posted: Oct 9, 2017 1:01 PM   in response to: privateerclause... in response to: privateerclause...
 
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My prices are $3.00 per copy. E book format
Donna St Felix

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Posted: Oct 9, 2017 1:53 PM   in response to: Michael Morgan in response to: Michael Morgan
 
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Michael Morgan wrote:
My prices are $3.00 per copy. E book format

Spamming the forums can get you booted.
We authors are NOT your customers.
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Posted: Nov 13, 2017 8:05 AM   in response to: jamesfc in response to: jamesfc
 
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I know I would benefit from editing, and used to have an editor who would help me out just for a free look at the book

as an indie, trying to break even, I can't afford to pay $$

as my readers know

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