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KDP Print questions
Posted: Oct 11, 2017 10:50 PM
 
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Hello everyone, large Noob in the house.

Okay - so in a rush of blood and a strange lack of research, I printed my book with KDP print, rather than createspace.

Of course I almost instantly discovered my error when unable to buy author discounted copies of my book. The setting the sale price low, buy copies for self, reset price higher again solution seems a slow and unwieldy process to me, and does not shave that much off for me, given my book is 462 bound pages.

I believe I could allocate a new ISBN number and print an alternate version on Createspace which would allow me to print off my own copies cheaply.

BUT: I have read though, that some bookstores are still less than enthused about buying printed books via createspace, as it is still part of the Amazon group.

So, would it be better for me to try a different approach - keep the KDP print with Amazon, and go to IngramSpark for a second paperback option with a separate ISBN I could then use to print off review copies cheaply and also use as a channel to sell to bookstores large and small?

Or could I be creating a huge headache for myself? I have used my own ISBN s for all versions of my book so far.

I am in no rush this time around, the book is up and selling on Amazon, and I'm not wanting to make any more hasty mistakes.

Thank you in advance for any responses. I have read a few threads on this subject, but have not found any that directly replicate this question, so here I am!

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Posted: Oct 11, 2017 10:53 PM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
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It is my understanding that books thru the Kindle site can be deleted.
If you can delete it, then go to CreateSpace and republish it there.
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 5:32 AM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
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Since you've used your own ISBN and KDP Print doesn't have a connection to the Ingram catalogue, you can use the same ISBN with IngramSpark, provided you use the exact same physical properties for the book so that it's the same edition.

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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 7:09 AM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
 
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Of you could order wholesale proofs through KDP. Something that has been available for a while now https://kdp.amazon.com/en_US/help/topic/G202131440
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 8:42 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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Thank you for the reply! I know they can be deleted, but I thought the entry would remain, but be inactive, which might cause confusion - better a live link than a dead one. Of course I could be wrong on the deleted book still looking available, being new to this and all...

And going to createspace does not solve the issue of whether or not createspace originated books are received less willingly than other self-pubbed books at brick and mortar stores. Can anyone else relate to that, or is it an urban myth?
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 8:48 AM   in response to: Sarah E. Holroyd in response to: Sarah E. Holroyd
 
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I can? Now that would be very useful! I would use the same PDF and cover files so it should be identical in every respect.

I would like that very much to be the case as it would make life much simpler, and I could reassign my spare ISBN to a hardback edition with Ingram.

Thank you for reply, and for the information!
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 9:00 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
 
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Thank you Emily! I wish I had noticed that option before I went live - Ho Ho! It seems you can only order proofs when the book is in draft status, after you have gone live it looks like the option has gone, sadly. (Unless you can somehow revert to draft status at will?) That is great information though, and something newbies like me could do with finding in advance - thank you for flagging it up - I hope others earlier in the process see it and can use it. The not for resale watermark would not be an issue for me when looking for reviewer copies to send out, it might bother others though.) Thanks again!
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 9:35 AM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
 
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I think Sarah actually answered my question for me - I just have to confirm that with Ingram, to be sure for myself. All three answers were useful, and I think good for other newcomers to/investigators of KDP to know.
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 9:52 AM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
 
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Well, that's annoying. i had not noticed that it was for draft status books only.
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 10:06 AM   in response to: Emily Veinglory in response to: Emily Veinglory
 
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I know! But thank you for pointing it out - hopefully it can help out other folk before they go live. I'd have made up a bunch in advance for reviewers! (If I could have waited! I was so eager to get on with it and hit my self-imposed deadline for release... and here I am, wondering what to do to rectify the results of my haste! Haha!)
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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 12:17 PM   in response to: Roderick T Macd... in response to: Roderick T Macd...
 
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While you're assessing how you went wrong, resolve next time to use the excellent platform at the CreateSpace division of Amazon.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

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Posted: Oct 12, 2017 1:18 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Thanks Notjohn!

I will say that so far the KDP prints have gone well, I just don't have access to all the features I would like. Of course I cannot compare the KDP print version to what one would have looked like as a createspace production!

I found this post from 9/25/17 https://kdp.amazon.com/community/ann.jspa?annID=1369

Where it sounds like more of createspace's functions are being ported into KDP print, including the ability to print off author copies. It has links to a how to to make author copies, but those options as described are not yet live. Perhaps soon?
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