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Daniel

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How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 12:36 PM
 
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Hi,
I have recently published a science fiction book.
Are there any reviewers out there who can review my book?

Thanks,
Dan

Edited by: Daniel on Oct 23, 2017 12:37 PM

Edited by: Daniel on Oct 24, 2017 10:48 AM
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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 1:46 PM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Here's a useful blog post on promoting your book: https://insights.bookbub.com/marketing-a-new-book-tactics-authors-publishers-love

And one on getting the most out of your Amazon store listing: https://www.writtenwordmedia.com/2017/03/07/sell-more-books-on-amazon/

And a somewhat biased look at the whole process of self-publishing (you can ignore the BookBaby promotions): https://www.bookbaby.com/pages/pdf/5-Steps-To-Self-Publishing.pdf
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 1:47 PM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Daniel,

Do you want reviewers who'll post a review on Amazon, or reviewers who'll tell you here on the community what we think of your masterpiece?

If it's the former, you're asking the wrong people. We're authors and publishers. Nobody here is going to bother to read anyone else's book just so they can leave a review. Most of us have got other things to do.

If you're looking for feedback from the community, I'll be happy to kick off... you have a clear lack of commas in your work, and the only ones I could see were wrongly used instead of full stops. That means you either have short choppy sentences, or overly long sentences (50+ words). I didn't get past the second chapter.

I won't pick up on the content of your book as I wouldn't normally read a heavy-duty sci-fi book as it's seriously not my genre, so it wouldn't be fair of me to comment.

I just thought I'd let you know what jumped out at me from your look inside. J
Justin Sampson

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 1:50 PM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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looks good, except the book description, commonly called the blurb is really like a book itself. The description area uses html, try some and format yours better.

Otherwise it seems like you've got the jist of how to put the words on the page properly. When it comes to story, someone else will have to judge. Fantastical, far-reaching scifi isn't my thing. Maybe if I had an idea about what was coming farther along in the book I might read it. But again I couldn't get through the description.

This is what Julia means by commas.

"He waited. For instructions on disembarkation."

You don't need a fullstop there.

Can you simply tell me what the book is about?

Edited by: Justin Sampson on Oct 23, 2017 1:52 PM
Salamander Mall...

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 2:18 PM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Daniel wrote:
Hi,
I have recently published a science fiction book called Dharthi.
Are there any reviewers out there who can review my book?

Thanks,
Dan

Edited by: Daniel on Oct 23, 2017 12:37 PM


You should never ever under any circumstances mention your book's title in this forum.

Your cover will not attract customers. They have already seen it on hundreds of other e-books that they did not buy.

Your blurb is incomprehensible and in no way entices the reader inside.

Your interior, likewise, is incomprehensible, and it's poorly formatted. A narrative hook that drives the reader away is not the best way to make a sale. Making your reader jump between artificial words and end notes is no way to engender a good reading experience.

As has been mentioned often in the past few days, if you want to make sales, especially in a dynamic and overcrowded genre like Science Fiction, you have to offer work that is better than that of your competitors, self-publishers whose works are attractively designed, professionally presented, properly formatted and well written.

Right about now, you're grumbling that you only wanted to know if there are reviewers "out there" who could review your book, not some idiot telling you everything that's wrong. The answer is yes. Yes, there are reviewers out there, just as there are reviewers in here. The above is a review.
Notjohn

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 23, 2017 4:03 PM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
 
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You should never ever under any circumstances mention your book's title in this forum.

I can't think of any information more useful than the book's title, unless perhaps the ASIN.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

The blog:
http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
Salamander Mall...

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Posted: Oct 23, 2017 4:40 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
 
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Notjohn wrote:
You should never ever under any circumstances mention your book's title in this forum.

I can't think of any information more useful than the book's title, unless perhaps the ASIN.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

The blog: http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com


Useful, yes, if you enjoy being the chum in a shark tank.
Daniel

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 11:01 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
 
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You should never ever under any circumstances mention your book's title in this forum.
Didn't know this. I have removed the name of the book

Your cover will not attract customers. They have already seen it on hundreds of other e-books that they did not buy.
This is good to know. New cover coming up

Your blurb is incomprehensible and in no way entices the reader inside.
Fair enough. It is good to know.

Your interior, likewise, is incomprehensible, and it's poorly formatted. A narrative hook that drives the reader away is not the best way to make a sale. Making your reader jump between artificial words and end notes is no way to engender a good reading experience.
I am not sure how it is poorly formatted so I will let this go. I like to think new words are what push the English language but I understand your position too but I think I am fine with this. Everyone tells me about endnotes :) but I like them. But then I read books differently so I will let them stand.

As has been mentioned often in the past few days, if you want to make sales, especially in a dynamic and overcrowded genre like Science Fiction, you have to offer work that is better than that of your competitors, self-publishers whose works are attractively designed, professionally presented, properly formatted and well written.
Well, I like to believe it is a learning curve. Again, I am not sure what proper formatting means. It is about commas well I intend not to use them. But then the trick is to write awesome sentences so the above is probably feedback enough that the sentences are not all they could be. Well written is subjective. So won't comment on it.

Right about now, you're grumbling that you only wanted to know if there are reviewers "out there" who could review your book, not some idiot telling you everything that's wrong. The answer is yes. Yes, there are reviewers out there, just as there are reviewers in here. The above is a review.
I am happy you actually took the time to tell me so much. Obviously I am not going to work on everything since each writer comes with a mindset of what he/she wants to explore in writing / approach writing with. But certain things are definitely good to know. Thanks!
Daniel

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 11:08 AM   in response to: Mrs Julia Evans in response to: Mrs Julia Evans
 
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Hi Julia,
Thanks for the comments. Totally fair.

I was consciously trying to write without commas but then I wound up using full stops. :)
I like to think of them as active sentences. To get the visual across. The example Justin gave, "He waited. For instructions on disembarkation." The full stop after the waited is to make the reader stop, i.e. wait. It is something I am trying to develop and looks like I have ways to go to get there. But I totally get what you are saying too. :)

Thanks for taking the time to read my book and write to me about what you felt! Appreciate it.
Daniel

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 11:34 AM   in response to: Justin Sampson in response to: Justin Sampson
 
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Hi Justin,
I will try to get some html in there and rework that blurb content too.

The book in simple terms is this:
There is no single universe. Instead we have multiple levels of 'universes'. In one of those levels/'universes' a person by the name of Ceba has been widowed. In his grief Ceba has remembered an ancient legend that says that if he puts together the pieces of the consort of the First God, he can gain powers over life and death and thus bring his wife back to life. But the pieces of the consort are spread across the various 'universes'. And even if he were to put them together only the heart can keep them in harmony. But Pitrr who is Ceba's nemesis has also heard of the legend and knows the importance of the heart which is personified in the protagonist Mel. So Pitrr has erased Mel's memories and brought her to another 'universe' called the yoniverse where he intends to use her to further his agenda. The book is the story of how Mel's intuition helps her to regain her memory and yet manage to thwart both Ceba and Pitrr's plans.

I wrote this book as a quick way to start the series while doing a day job. Starting from Ceba and Pitrr's rivalry would have been best but that book would have taken me five years to write. Therefore I think I find it hard to explain what this book is about without dragging in a lot of what are side-stories from this book's context.

Thanks for asking. And trying to help me collect my thoughts. But this feels confusing and I get why most people would find it tough to get into the book. In some ways I guess it is like watching a movie from the middle and having no idea what is going on. :)

Still, I like my book :D

-Danny
Mrs Julia Evans

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 11:36 AM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Daniel,

I understand what you were trying to do, and fully respect that it's your book and your choice as to how you present it.

I'd just like to offer a word of caution...

What you see as quirky and fun, that idiosyncratic style that you've worked years on to perfect, a reader stumbling across your work for the first time may find annoying as hell, and a sure sign of poor writing ability! That's probably what they'll say in the 1* review they'll leave you, which you'll be begging A'zon to remove.

Your readers will already have their work cut out for them trying to get to grips with all your new alien vocabulary, not to mention all your end-notes which, imho, don't belong in a work of fiction.

I think you really should cut your readers some slack, and not make reading your book such a slog.

The example of the short sentence that Justin gave you, did at least make sense (once you'd explained it). The rest made no sense to me at all, and in all honesty, I can see no purpose whatsoever in having a sentence of 50+ words with no punctuation.

When I read, especially when I'm engrossed in a book, I'm almost breathing when the punctuation gives me permission. If I'd applied the same principal when reading your first two chapters, I fear I'd have blacked out more than once from lack of oxygen!

Play around with all the fantasy elements of your book to your heart's content, but I'd strongly suggest you adhere to the basic principals of grammar and punctuation for how you present your work. Otherwise it just comes across as self-indulgent clap-trap.

Just my second thoughts. J
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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 24, 2017 3:42 PM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Daniel wrote:
You should never ever under any circumstances mention your book's title in this forum.
Didn't know this. I have removed the name of the book

Your cover will not attract customers. They have already seen it on hundreds of other e-books that they did not buy.
This is good to know. New cover coming up

Your blurb is incomprehensible and in no way entices the reader inside.
Fair enough. It is good to know.

Your interior, likewise, is incomprehensible, and it's poorly formatted. A narrative hook that drives the reader away is not the best way to make a sale. Making your reader jump between artificial words and end notes is no way to engender a good reading experience.
I am not sure how it is poorly formatted so I will let this go. I like to think new words are what push the English language but I understand your position too but I think I am fine with this. Everyone tells me about endnotes :) but I like them. But then I read books differently so I will let them stand.

As has been mentioned often in the past few days, if you want to make sales, especially in a dynamic and overcrowded genre like Science Fiction, you have to offer work that is better than that of your competitors, self-publishers whose works are attractively designed, professionally presented, properly formatted and well written.
Well, I like to believe it is a learning curve. Again, I am not sure what proper formatting means. It is about commas well I intend not to use them. But then the trick is to write awesome sentences so the above is probably feedback enough that the sentences are not all they could be. Well written is subjective. So won't comment on it.

Right about now, you're grumbling that you only wanted to know if there are reviewers "out there" who could review your book, not some idiot telling you everything that's wrong. The answer is yes. Yes, there are reviewers out there, just as there are reviewers in here. The above is a review.
I am happy you actually took the time to tell me so much. Obviously I am not going to work on everything since each writer comes with a mindset of what he/she wants to explore in writing / approach writing with. But certain things are definitely good to know. Thanks!


Well, you can mention your book if you want, though most newbie writers find they don't care for whirlwind they've reaped.

There is a learning curve to everything, but it's best to wait till your toward the top of the curve before publishing. Readers expect professionalism and an excellent finished product, not a writer in training and work that will get better. Readers are not known for their charity, and the milk of human kindness is in short supply these days.

Advice is yours to heed or ignore. You should accept at the very least, however, that no one is going to see your work as you do. You should consider seeing it from a reader's point of view, which is difficult even for experienced writers.

The proof is in the selling. If you sell gazillions of copies to people who don't know you, then you're right and everyone else is wrong. If the sales aren't there, it may be time for Plan B.

Good luck.
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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 25, 2017 12:05 AM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Daniel wrote:
Hi Julia,
Thanks for the comments. Totally fair.

I was consciously trying to write without commas but then I wound up using full stops. :)
I like to think of them as active sentences. To get the visual across. The example Justin gave, "He waited. For instructions on disembarkation." The full stop after the waited is to make the reader stop, i.e. wait. It is something I am trying to develop and looks like I have ways to go to get there. But I totally get what you are saying too. :)

Thanks for taking the time to read my book and write to me about what you felt! Appreciate it.


I have no idea why you want to do away with commas, which are extremely useful, but if you do, use full stops correctly. Don't just sling them into the middle of a sentence.

He waited. For instructions on disembarkation. (Not good, as it stops the reader in the middle of a perfectly good sentence.)
He waited. The order to disembark didn't come. (Now we're wondering why, and will read further to find out).

Just my thoughts.
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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 25, 2017 4:34 AM   in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst in response to: Cynthia E. Hurst
 
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Cynthia E. Hurst wrote:
Daniel wrote:
Hi Julia,
Thanks for the comments. Totally fair.

I was consciously trying to write without commas but then I wound up using full stops. :)
I like to think of them as active sentences. To get the visual across. The example Justin gave, "He waited. For instructions on disembarkation." The full stop after the waited is to make the reader stop, i.e. wait. It is something I am trying to develop and looks like I have ways to go to get there. But I totally get what you are saying too. :)

Thanks for taking the time to read my book and write to me about what you felt! Appreciate it.

I have no idea why you want to do away with commas, which are extremely useful, but if you do, use full stops correctly. Don't just sling them into the middle of a sentence.

He waited. For instructions on disembarkation. (Not good, as it stops the reader in the middle of a perfectly good sentence.)
He waited. The order to disembark didn't come. (Now we're wondering why, and will read further to find out).

Just my thoughts.

There is only one reason to avoid using commas and that is because you have no idea what to do with them. That doesn't make for a 'different' or 'quirky' writer - that makes for someone who cannot write. OP If you don't know what to do with a full stop or a comma, employ an editor who does.
Daniel

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Re: How do I let reviewers know my book is out there?
Posted: Oct 29, 2017 9:07 AM   in response to: Daniel in response to: Daniel
 
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Thanks all for your comments. I got ideas to increase readability. They are more innovative than suggested. Sales is the thing. So thanK you for taking the effort to write. This is exactly what I wanted.
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