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Erik Lundin

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Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 11:41 AM
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I think the title says it all. I wrote a book Terence the T-Rex, it's drawn in a style that a child might have drawn it in. I'm looking for some help in what I can do to help with some of the marketing. It's free today so I thought I'd reach out to the community to see if there are any ideas I'm not thinking of. Thanks for your help.

https://www.amazon.com/Terence-T-Rex-How-Deal-Bullies-ebook/dp/B07772Y1JS
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 12:06 PM   in response to: Erik Lundin in response to: Erik Lundin
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Your Look Inside reveals very little to the customer, not even the image of a full page because you used fixed format, which will also hamper your marketing efforts because it's not available on all devices, and difficult to read on compatible devices. While it's true that parents purchase books, not children, it still has to be appealing to kids. I can't imagine a single kid these days taking seriously the idea of a carnivore being bullied by a herbivore. There are also 4,000+ kiddie e-books about bullying already glutting the marketplace. Add to that a name unknown to buyers, an extremely high price and the continuing doldrums of the kid e-book market (despite Amazon's best efforts) -- you've chosen a very steep hill to climb. Did you research the market first?
booknookbiz

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
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Salamander Mallory wrote:
Your Look Inside reveals very little to the customer, not even the image of a full page because you used fixed format, which will also hamper your marketing efforts because it's not available on all devices, and difficult to read on compatible devices. While it's true that parents purchase books, not children, it still has to be appealing to kids. I can't imagine a single kid these days taking seriously the idea of a carnivore being bullied by a herbivore. There are also 4,000+ kiddie e-books about bullying already glutting the marketplace. Add to that a name unknown to buyers, an extremely high price and the continuing doldrums of the kid e-book market (despite Amazon's best efforts) -- you've chosen a very steep hill to climb. Did you research the market first?

Actually, what surprised me was the review from a parent that said that the "happy ending" was when the bullied dino apparently killed his tormentors? Not to be all judgy or anything, but...as you seem to have made this LOOK like a kids' book, don't you think that's going to be highly problematic for most parents? Personally, I don't beelieve in Helicopter parenting, but...not sure I'd read my 4-5 or whatever-year old a book where the dino murdered the bullies. Seems just a wee bit one step too far, to me. Especially in a day and age where we are dealing with domestic terrorists that shoot people randomly. Just sayin'.

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robert d dorazi

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 12:18 PM   in response to: Erik Lundin in response to: Erik Lundin
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Hi Erick

Unfortunately one of the reviewers who gave a 1 star also gave away the end of your picture booK. I haven't read it of course, but if the end is as described then you should state that it is certainly not a book for children.

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Posted: Nov 24, 2017 12:24 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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booknookbiz wrote:
Salamander Mallory wrote:
Your Look Inside reveals very little to the customer, not even the image of a full page because you used fixed format, which will also hamper your marketing efforts because it's not available on all devices, and difficult to read on compatible devices. While it's true that parents purchase books, not children, it still has to be appealing to kids. I can't imagine a single kid these days taking seriously the idea of a carnivore being bullied by a herbivore. There are also 4,000+ kiddie e-books about bullying already glutting the marketplace. Add to that a name unknown to buyers, an extremely high price and the continuing doldrums of the kid e-book market (despite Amazon's best efforts) -- you've chosen a very steep hill to climb. Did you research the market first?

Actually, what surprised me was the review from a parent that said that the "happy ending" was when the bullied dino apparently killed his tormentors? Not to be all judgy or anything, but...as you seem to have made this LOOK like a kids' book, don't you think that's going to be highly problematic for most parents? Personally, I don't beelieve in Helicopter parenting, but...not sure I'd read my 4-5 or whatever-year old a book where the dino murdered the bullies. Seems just a wee bit one step too far, to me. Especially in a day and age where we are dealing with domestic terrorists that shoot people randomly. Just sayin'.

Hitch
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I rarely look at reviews, but I should have this time, I suppose. Wow.

@OP: Since you've shot yourself in the head, unpublishing would be a service to civilization.
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Posted: Nov 24, 2017 3:43 PM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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Salamander Mallory wrote:
booknookbiz wrote:
Salamander Mallory wrote:
Your Look Inside reveals very little to the customer, not even the image of a full page because you used fixed format, which will also hamper your marketing efforts because it's not available on all devices, and difficult to read on compatible devices. While it's true that parents purchase books, not children, it still has to be appealing to kids. I can't imagine a single kid these days taking seriously the idea of a carnivore being bullied by a herbivore. There are also 4,000+ kiddie e-books about bullying already glutting the marketplace. Add to that a name unknown to buyers, an extremely high price and the continuing doldrums of the kid e-book market (despite Amazon's best efforts) -- you've chosen a very steep hill to climb. Did you research the market first?

Actually, what surprised me was the review from a parent that said that the "happy ending" was when the bullied dino apparently killed his tormentors? Not to be all judgy or anything, but...as you seem to have made this LOOK like a kids' book, don't you think that's going to be highly problematic for most parents? Personally, I don't beelieve in Helicopter parenting, but...not sure I'd read my 4-5 or whatever-year old a book where the dino murdered the bullies. Seems just a wee bit one step too far, to me. Especially in a day and age where we are dealing with domestic terrorists that shoot people randomly. Just sayin'.

Hitch
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I rarely look at reviews, but I should have this time, I suppose. Wow.

@OP: Since you've shot yourself in the head, unpublishing would be a service to civilization.


LOL...{snort}.

Honestly...maybe it's time to break out the popcorn. This one feels like it's gonna be a bumpy night. I seriously read that review twice. I thought that certainly, I'd misread it, but, apparently not. Yowza.

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robert d dorazi

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 4:38 PM   in response to: Erik Lundin in response to: Erik Lundin
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It's rather scary I think to read a 5 stars review stating that the reader will someday use this book to teach her kids how to deal with school bullying...
Unless of course the ending is not the one stated by the 1 star review.

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Simon Farrance

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 5:31 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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It’s not safe to drink tea around here!
George Garrigues

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 5:47 PM   in response to: Erik Lundin in response to: Erik Lundin
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Hi, Erik! You have a cute drawing style; I like it.

For some reason, the pages in the preview are all cut off; I can't see a full page, so I would not buy your book.

Good luck!
resteasy

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 24, 2017 6:12 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Roald Dahl came up with some pretty gruesome children's tales, including them being eaten by monsters. Don't know if he was big in the US, but now deceased his books still sell amazingly well.
booknookbiz

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Posted: Nov 24, 2017 7:12 PM   in response to: resteasy in response to: resteasy
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resteasy wrote:
Roald Dahl came up with some pretty gruesome children's tales, including them being eaten by monsters. Don't know if he was big in the US, but now deceased his books still sell amazingly well.

Naturally, I'm aware of the Dahl books. They are new classics, of course. But Dahl's works have a deep storyline, and there's "scary" and monstrous, versus, well, not. And the Lemony Snicketts (sp),which are not warm and fuzzy, either.

The thing here is, the OP clearly states that this is NOT for kids. There's obviously some disconnect here, of some kind. Perhaps it's like the now-famous book, "Go the **** to Sleep," right? Or, it could be a send-up of Barney. I don't know. What I know is that someone, somewhere, somehow, bought this book considering that it was intended for a child. And, patently, THAT seems to be a problem.

What I do know is when I read the review, I nearly barked with laughter. I mean, that's pretty catastrophic for a book that's made to appear like a kids' book, that isn't a kids' book.

Just an observation.

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 25, 2017 4:23 AM   in response to: robert d dorazi in response to: robert d dorazi
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It's rather scary I think to read a 5 stars review stating that the reader will someday use this book to teach her kids how to deal with school bullying.

I suspected a college kid, having kids "some day" on a distant planet far away. Then I began to wonder about college kids who buy or anyhow read ostensible kids' books.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 25, 2017 4:47 AM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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Apropos, there's a superlative Weekend interview today in the Wall Street Journal, by Tunku Varadarajan, talking to Laurent de Brunhoff, the second-generation author of the Babar the Elephant series. The first seven volumes were written by his father, and in the first, as most civilized people know, Babar was orphaned when a hunter killed his mother. Now M. de Brunhoff and his wife have finished the final book in this classic series, in which Babar explains to his daughter how she is to navigate Paris. Tunku brings up the question of terrorism and slums and all the hazards of contemporary Paris. Of course there is none of that in the book, and indeed the authors (his wife, Rose, actually writes the script) agree that the first volume could never be published today. The publishers wouldn't allow it, and parents wouldn't buy it.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Tiffany Smith

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 25, 2017 10:34 AM   in response to: Erik Lundin in response to: Erik Lundin
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The first sentence of your blurb should say, "This book is not for children." Your blurb states that it could be for both but if I were you I would just go with adults to cut down on the confusion and parents getting that surprise at the end that they might not appreciate.
Robin Gilmor

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Re: Wrote children's style book, but not for kids. Help with the Description
Posted: Nov 25, 2017 12:12 PM   in response to: booknookbiz in response to: booknookbiz
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I WILL REVIEW YOUR BOOK FOR THE GUNSTON TRUST FOR NON-VIOLENCE IN CHILDREN LITERATURE IF THAT IS YOUR AREA.
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