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david

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Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 11:50 AM
 
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I've had a good four years publishing via Amazon KDP but in the past six months my sales have fallen off a cliff and nothing I do reverses the trend. Nor can I get any sense or helpful advice from the support team, so it's time to move on. I've noticed other authors talk of 'going wide' i.e. publishing via Kobo and Barnes & Noble as well as audiobooks. I've started transferring onto audiobook via ACX but would appreciate some advice re other sales platforms. Are they as user-friendly as the Amazon format? Can I reasonably expect decent sales? Thanks.
B.L. Alley

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 11:59 AM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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You went 'wide' by choosing Amazon. The others are fractions of the Amazon market reach, and their processes aren't nearly as user friendly.
david

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 12:00 PM   in response to: B.L. Alley in response to: B.L. Alley
 
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Cheers, that's me stuffed then.
B.L. Alley

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 12:06 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Sales fall off becasue indies have a bad rep and it's only getting worse as thousands of new garbage books are published every day.
C. Gold

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 1:18 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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You can try publishing with Draft2Digital. They get your books out to many stores, including Amazon. Still no Google Play, but I think that's next on their to get list.
Cynthia E. Hurst

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 1:21 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Many people here use D2D (Draft2Digital) to reach other platforms. I've never had any problems with them and their customer support is good. They distribute to B&N Nook, Kobo and iBooks, as well as some other platforms. As noted, Amazon is still the largest retailer, but assuming you're not in Select, there's no reason not to try the others.
cdalebrittain

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 1:28 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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It's easy to get onto B&N/Nook and Kobo. It's not exactly the same process as KDP but close. On the other hand, iTunes is distinctly user-hostile. I got onto it by myself (an epic quest, and I'm a Mac user), but for most people an aggregator (like Draft2Digital) makes it far easier.

I think my non-KDP ebook sales, ACX audio sales, and paperback sales between them are roughly half my book income most months.

Have you tried a Bookbub promotion? It's the only thing I've found that really gooses your sales, though it is expensive and hard to get accepted. (Other lower-cost and lower-yield alternatives include ENT.)
writerbn

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 2:55 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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david wrote:
Are they as user-friendly as the Amazon format? Can I reasonably expect decent sales? Thanks.
If you know how to build a good ePub file, you can use that same file everywhere. So yes, getting onto the other retailers is every bit as easy as publishing with KDP.

As others have said, I recommend D2D as long as you're not publishing erotica (or maybe even erotic romance). If you are, then use Smash*words.

However, my experience has been that books not selling well on Ama*zon will sell worse elsewhere. There's no magic bullet. The best thing you can do to boost sales now would be to write and publish more books.
Notjohn

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 4:11 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Like many others, I use Draft2Digital as my "aggregator." I figure that a book not offered by Barnes & Noble isn't a book at all.

Indeed, it's just about impossible to get on a legitimate best-seller list (WSJ, NYT) unless your book is sold by multiple online bookstores.

For me, the biggest earner outside Amazon is Apple, followed by B&N, Kobo, and Google Play. There are many countries (Canada, for one!) where Amazon is a relatively minor player.

You should also think about paperback editions, and maybe audiobooks, though they are surprisingly difficult and don't pay awfully well.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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chris

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 7, 2017 6:46 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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From my own admittedly limited experience 'going wide' with one other large ebook publisher -- the Zon is the place to be.

You may get a few extra sales elsewhere, but unless you are already a popular established writer, don't count on large numbers.

The place I chose to start going wide I got maybe 1/10th the monthly sales -- and that was on a good month.

It's probably a good practice to do it, though, if only to get wider exposure. And even a handful of extra sales is better than zero.
writerbn

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 8, 2017 4:48 AM   in response to: chris in response to: chris
 
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chris wrote:
You may get a few extra sales elsewhere, but unless you are already a popular established writer, don't count on large numbers.
I'm neither popular nor established, but as of last month, 43% of my sales were outside the Zon. It does take time to build a following on the other channels; over a year for that pen name in my case.

If you target an international audience, you could be losing out on a lot of readers if you don't go wide.
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Going wide advice
Posted: Dec 8, 2017 1:53 PM   in response to: david in response to: david
 
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Overall, publishing elsewhere is no more difficult than through KDP. Just different hoops. But the physical act of publishing isn't the hard part, is it? It's marketing. Most people find it very difficult. Even if you don't, now you have to split your marketing efforts across multiple platforms. You'll have to market just as hard as you do on Amazon, but competing for a much smaller base of readers. Also, it will take time to gain traction there, just as it did on Amazon. All things to consider. Good luck no matter what you choose.
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