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martin gregory

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ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 18, 2017 1:55 AM
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GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH MY PAPERBACK!!
BEEN TRYING FOR DAYS NOW AND THEY KEEP GIVING PAGES AND PAGES OF ERRORS!!
THE COVER PIC IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE KINDLE BUT NOT FOR PAPERBACK AND IVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW ALTERING IT!!!
SEEMS AMAZON WANT TO COMPLETELY TRY TO PUSH YOU AROUND AND MAYBE PUSH THEIR IDEAS RATHER THAN WHAT YOU WANT!!!!
THIS IS NOT MY IDEA OF SELF PUBLISHING!!!!
Notjohn

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Posted: Dec 18, 2017 2:51 AM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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Do understand that Amazon has to build a system that will work reasonably well with utter fools. It has been working at this for ten years and not gotten it right just yet. For example, it still can't STOP PEOPLE FROM TYPING ALL CAPS.

The answer is simple but in two parts:

1) Switch to CreateSpace.

2) Fix your cover. If you can't do it, hire it done. Probably cost you $11 on Fiverr.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Salamander Mall...

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 18, 2017 6:53 AM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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Two things:
  • Go to CreateSpace since their programmed approach is better suited to people who don't know what they're doing.
  • Use your indoor voice in the forum and don't be a twit.
Notjohn

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Posted: Dec 18, 2017 7:24 AM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
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Use your indoor voice in the forum and don't be a twit.

Harsh, but softer than my first impulse for an answer.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

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Ned Kelly

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 18, 2017 12:13 PM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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Martin, what NJ said plus...

All the problems you see are created by you - not Amazon. Takes some time out to LEARN how to format. IT IS NOT DIFFICULT - hundreds of thousands of writers have done it. To speed up the process use about 20 pages only - include a few chapters so you can see how to create chapter breaks and headings. This should allow you to see any problems and then cure them using the online viewer. Personally I find the paperback process simpler than e-book formatting, but if you've not had much experience using a word processor it may seem complicated. Really it isn't, it's usually impatient newbies who don't believe in learning how to do it...

And bloody well STOP SHOUTING!

Cheers

Ned
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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 18, 2017 4:25 PM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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martin gregory wrote:
GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH MY PAPERBACK!!
BEEN TRYING FOR DAYS NOW AND THEY KEEP GIVING PAGES AND PAGES OF ERRORS!!
THE COVER PIC IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE KINDLE BUT NOT FOR PAPERBACK AND IVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW ALTERING IT!!!
SEEMS AMAZON WANT TO COMPLETELY TRY TO PUSH YOU AROUND AND MAYBE PUSH THEIR IDEAS RATHER THAN WHAT YOU WANT!!!!
THIS IS NOT MY IDEA OF SELF PUBLISHING!!!!

What everyone else said, PLUS:

Of course the cover pic isn't good enough for an entire wraparound cover. The differences between one and the other are night and day. eBooks don't have bleed, for example; print covers do.

As far as Amazon trying to "push you around and push their ideas," please, don't make me laugh. If they DID, hell, perhaps we'd see a boatload more quality than we have now.

Go to Createspace, and follow the GUIDED set-up. It's designed to help people like you, and while you're at it, download and READ the Publishing Guidelines.

Good luck.

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David Brown

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 18, 2017 4:34 PM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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Self publishing means publishing it yourself. YOU do all the heavy lifting. Amazon just provides tools and an outlet. You do all the work. I had the same problems you did and it took me a full week to figure out how to format my book for print. I actually took the time to do it (because I'm not a quitter) and I learned it inside and out. I then formatted my second in about two hours while watching a hockey game.

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Tripod Solution...

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 19, 2017 8:29 AM   in response to: David Brown in response to: David Brown
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A simple tip: Invest 20 dollars or euros in learning. With this sum, you can buy 5 to 10 ebooks that help understand How to format and publish eBook.

Good luck!

Charles G. Koonitz
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Posted: Dec 19, 2017 8:52 AM   in response to: Tripod Solution... in response to: Tripod Solution...
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Tripod Solutions inc. wrote:
A simple tip: Invest 20 dollars or euros in learning. With this sum, you can buy 5 to 10 ebooks that help understand How to format and publish eBook.
You don't even need to do that. There are excellent resources online, available free, such as David Gaughran's blog and the Smash*words style guide.
Dave Casey

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 19, 2017 9:01 AM   in response to: martin gregory in response to: martin gregory
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martin gregory wrote:
THE COVER PIC IS GOOD ENOUGH FOR THE KINDLE BUT NOT FOR PAPERBACK AND IVE TRIED FOR DAYS NOW ALTERING IT!!!

This right here tells me you don't know what you're doing. Of course an ebook cover isn't good enough for a paperback cover. Why would you think it would be? The measurements are different, the DPI is WAY different, the process of formatting the image is different. Did you just try to upload the same file you used for the ebook to the paperback publisher tool? You do realize that the cover for a paperback needs to be upload as a PDF file, right?

Coming here screaming and ranting and raving, when it's obvious you don't have a clue about what you're doing is no way to make friends.

I've uploaded ebook and paperback covers to KDP and have never had a problem, so I'm guessing the problem isn't the tool, it's operator error.
Notjohn

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 19, 2017 12:45 PM   in response to: Dave Casey in response to: Dave Casey
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You do realize that the cover for a paperback needs to be upload as a PDF file, right?

Not necessarily. I long ago created a cover for the digital edition of my Guide, and only last year decided to make a paperback version of it. So I opened the jpeg (1200x1800 pixels, I believe) in Photoshop Elements and added a bit of gray to the top, right, and bottom, to allow for trim. It was remarkably easy to do.

Then I opened up the CreateSpace cover wizard and went to what I think is the last template offered, which allows us to provide a full front cover, then to kludge out a spine and a back cover. No PDF required.

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

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http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
Dave Casey

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 19, 2017 1:32 PM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Well, not to get into an argument about your cover, but it is only red letters on a white background on a gray background. Hardly anything that even Microsoft Paint couldn't handle.
Notjohn

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 20, 2017 3:26 AM   in response to: Dave Casey in response to: Dave Casey
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Yes, the virtues of simplicity!

(Don't trust KDP to publish a print edition. Don't trust CreateSpace to publish an ebook. Each does one thing well and the other thing poorly.)

Good luck! -- NJ

Notjohn's Guide to E-Book & Print Formatting

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http://notjohnkdp.blogspot.com
writerbn

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Re: ANYONE ELSE GIVEN UP TRYING TO PUBLISH??
Posted: Dec 20, 2017 4:49 AM   in response to: Notjohn in response to: Notjohn
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Notjohn wrote:
Yes, the virtues of simplicity!
Take a look at the covers for B J Novak's books some time.
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