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resteasy

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 4:24 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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Wonderful MAD magazine. I used to buy the US imports. Outstanding memory was a piece rewriting Wordsworth's famous poem. It began: I wandered lonely as a clod.
C. Gold

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Posted: Dec 22, 2017 6:20 PM   in response to: Joseph M Erhardt in response to: Joseph M Erhardt
 
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Joseph M Erhardt wrote:
I used to love MAD Magazine's If X Were Written by Y poetry. E.g., if "Casey at the Bat" had been written by Edgar Allan Poe. It began:

Once upon a final inning,
with the other ball-team winning,
and my Mudville teammates trailing
by a score of two to four ...

Etc.
:)

Haha, that's awesome. Guess you could tell I had a little Poe influence on my mosquito poem there. I love the lyrical quality of his poetry and incorporated it as best I could while writing a silly poetical response to a Facebook post. I tend to get quirky that way but I put them up for free on my website instead of trying to charge money. Nobody should pay to suffer my poems!

MAD Magazine had some wonderful stuff in them. I haven't thought of them in ages.
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Posted: Dec 25, 2017 7:06 AM   in response to: resteasy in response to: resteasy
 
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Whatsoever - can and should be done to keep poetry alive. Poetry is Life.
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Posted: Dec 25, 2017 7:17 AM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
 
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Not a bad one, anyway. But, I would like your take on my "Beauty and the Poet" (a tale in verse). I would be running a free book promotion from tomorrow on the platform.
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Posted: Dec 25, 2017 3:43 PM   in response to: Dapo Sodade in response to: Dapo Sodade
 
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No poetry, not even for free. Poetry is a dead and decomposing horse. Stop beating it.
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Posted: Dec 25, 2017 11:46 PM   in response to: Salamander Mall... in response to: Salamander Mall...
 
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No poetry, not even for free. Poetry is a dead and decomposing horse. Stop beating it.

Poetry existed before drama, before prose, even before writing. You are not the first to write it off, and not the first by far in being wrong to do so.

Edited by: the_peartree on Dec 25, 2017 11:46 PM
Jonathan B

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Posted: Dec 26, 2017 7:01 AM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
 
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the_peartree wrote:
No poetry, not even for free. Poetry is a dead and decomposing horse. Stop beating it.

Poetry existed before drama, before prose, even before writing. You are not the first to write it off, and not the first by far in being wrong to do so.


Many people tend to scorn if I mention this, but what is rap but poetry?
Moshe Ben-Or

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Posted: Dec 26, 2017 9:06 AM   in response to: Jonathan B in response to: Jonathan B
 
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Many people tend to scorn if I mention this, but what is rap but poetry?

Not poetry. Proto-poetry. Most rap is stream of consciousness free association set to a rhythmic meter. It is what poetry was, before it became poetry. Rap is a very Spenglerian thing, much like many forms of hard Rock and Roll. It is, all things considered, quite amazing how insightful Spengler was.
Dapo Sodade

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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 5:30 PM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
 
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Nice one. Poetry only dies when we stop thinking, speaking and writing.

Poetry is an integral part of human life.

It doesn't matter if we believe that or not.
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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 6:07 PM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
 
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the_peartree wrote:
You have my sympathies, in that case.
Thank you, but why? Are tears a necessary sign of appreciation for poetry or any good writing?
the_peartree

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Many people tend to scorn if I mention this, but what is rap but poetry?

Bad poetry?
the_peartree

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Posted: Dec 29, 2017 11:08 PM   in response to: 10blade in response to: 10blade
 
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Are tears a necessary sign of appreciation for poetry or any good writing?

No; one can enjoy and appreciate any art without tears. But I think the greatest artists and writers can touch us profoundly - that's what makes them great - and one manifestation of that is tears. After the first performance of 'Death Of A Salesman', Arthur Miller was astonished to see that it was the men in the audience who were crying. Dickens could reduce an entire audience to tears when he read aloud the death of Little Nell. At a performance of King Lear at Stratford, I saw Shakespeare and Ian McKellen have the same effect on a number of people. Personally, I have loved Impressionist painting all my life but standing in front of certain pictures in the Musee d'Orsay for the first time brought a lump to the throat.

I think that people who never experience such moments are unfortunate.
Lazarian Wordsm...

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Posted: Jan 2, 2018 7:07 AM   in response to: Dapo Sodade in response to: Dapo Sodade
 
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But But But But....aren't song lyrics poetry and selling well....e.g Dylan Nobel Prize for Literature, Leonard Cohen ,The late Rod Mc Kuen and a lot of others.
The Irish Poet Seamus Heaney won the Nobel Lit. Prize as well....

Then again poetry is a large field, rhyming, blank verse, haiku, twihaiku and even my favourite type prose poetry....

From The Land Of Cudhabeen...In That Blackthorn Month.....

Then that night – in the moonlight under the stars,
I went down into the wood: to its pine heart;
and garnered from the forest floor
into my hamper box,
small twigs, pine and fir and larch cones,
covering them with palm.

I ranged outward, seeking the brown
yellow and green, turning to amber, fallen-sinner-leaves
covering them with creeping ivy.
I scooped up hawthorn haws, yew berries
and green spiky chestnuts,
womb-open, showing their fruits inside.

I went and stole from gardens
jasmine, lavender and bramble.
from the bogs their heather and their peat.
At dawn I took this treasure trove of forest
bog and garden, to the house;
to her father’s door, where he stood in his day-clothes.

I carried the captured night-time into that bitter-sweet bower.
I surrounded her with the woodland.
I gave her soft air born of pine fronds
that wafted chestnut smells and whirling seeds of sycamore.
I made for her the rustling sounds of leaves, wind-tossed
against the swaying bark of ash and beech.

As sacred as any priest of pipe and plug,
I pared and rubbed between my palms the peat and heather,
and dropped the chaff along the floor and blew the fragrance to the air.
I scattered the gardens on her bed.
I told her I was sorry and called her my first love.
She smiled and reached up her small hand and whispered “Hi.”

As the day filled our new wood with light
we murmured of the old days and never spoke about the present
The family left us alone that day.
We whisper-talked, remembering.
She dozed and then we whispered again
and then she dozed again. Together we waited.

In that Blackthorn Month, that Secret Night of The Yew:
of death and rebirth, transformation and reincarnation;
Deirdre died. They wrapped her and hid her away:
carrying her in the heart of the coffin-wood,
that once hid pine martins, squirrels, owls
and sleepy, hot-foot-hopping, pigeons.

:Pat

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