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Nine Lives

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Can I keep adding a new chapter every week instead of releasing whole book
Posted: Jan 3, 2018 12:08 AM
 
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I've finally published my book after 8 years of writing multiple drafts.
I'm trying to create a new mode of reading fiction with this book. The 9 chapters will be released one every week.
Do you guys think that's a good way to promote readership?
Also, the middle seven chapters are optional to read and can be read in any order.

FYI - My Book - Nine Lives of a Politician
Dave Casey

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 1:41 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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Nine Lives wrote:
Do you guys think that's a good way to promote readership?

Sounds to me like a good way to piss off your readers.

I would think it would be better to publish something like that on a blog or website.
Donna St Felix

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 2:12 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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Nine Lives wrote:
I've finally published my book after 8 years of writing multiple drafts.
I'm trying to create a new mode of reading fiction with this book. The 9 chapters will be released one every week.
Do you guys think that's a good way to promote readership?
Also, the middle seven chapters are optional to read and can be read in any order.

FYI - My Book - Nine Lives of a Politician


That is silly. Who would want to make 9 purchases instead of ONE for a book?
Would you run to the store nine times for one recipe?
C. Gold

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Re: Can I keep adding a new chapter every week instead of releasing whole book
Posted: Jan 3, 2018 2:49 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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I didn't notice duplicate threads. I'll repeat my answer on the other one here.

Short answer: No.

Detailed answer:

1 book = 25 pages for 99c and 9 total books = $9 to read your entire book with codes required to unlock chapters? How does that even work with all the ereaders out there? Does this mean the entire book is gibberish until I download something from somewhere other than the Zon? I doubt they'll be too happy about that and likely make it hard to impossible to use promotion sites for something like this. This sounds like something that needs to be done on your own website where you can have your blog, forums, puzzle solving, and chapter unlocking and a centralized place to read the text where you can set some for free and others at a lower minimum price than 99c. Why even bother with the locked chapters in the first place? This sounds super shady and I predict many one star reviews even despite your info dump in the blurb about it. They could even complain to Zon about unreadable books and your book will get blocked by the Zon. Bragging that you have no author name only adds to the shady factor with locked chapters. People aren't going to understand this. KU people aren't going to want to bother with extra steps. Each extra hoop a reader has to jump through = less sales.

Also, your blurb is so busy talking about this new book format, it forgot to say what the story is about or what genre. And the cover doesn't help either. It's the ugly cover creator template that breaks all cover design rules in a bad way and screams DON'T BUY ME! because that cover choice is used by many of the really terrible self pub'd books out there.

You repeat the blurb info in the Look Inside so people can't tell what your writing is like either.

I would write a normal book with a professional looking cover and decent length/price and try to get established with a reader base before going experimental like this. That way, you'd already have readers who know your writing style and have some trust in you and may be more willing to dive into your experiment. Also, I would go with a unified platform for your experiment rather than trying to sell locked chapters on the Zon. I don't see that ending well for you at all.
Nine Lives

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 3:44 AM   in response to: C. Gold in response to: C. Gold
 
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$1 is for one book which has 9 chapters in total. No need to pay multiple times.
Instead of releasing all the chapters at the same time, I'll be pushing in the new chapters every week.
The readers will have to update the book on Kindle every week to see the new chapter. (Kindle automatically updates the book when changes are pushed from my side)
The codes to unlock chapters is for my website readers. There the book is much more interactive.
Kindle users need not bother with codes. They will just have to read one chapter every week.
I think this will make people look forward to something on a regular basis.
Also I dont know why Amazon is showing it as 25 pages. On my tablet its coming out to be 40.
Donna St Felix

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 3:50 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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Nine Lives wrote:
$1 is for one book which has 9 chapters in total. No need to pay multiple times.
Instead of releasing all the chapters at the same time, I'll be pushing in the new chapters every week.
The readers will have to update the book on Kindle every week to see the new chapter. (Kindle automatically updates the book when changes are pushed from my side)
The codes to unlock chapters is for my website readers. There the book is much more interactive.
Kindle users need not bother with codes. They will just have to read one chapter every week.
I think this will make people look forward to something on a regular basis.
Also I dont know why Amazon is showing it as 25 pages. On my tablet its coming out to be 40.

See my new message in your other thread. Kindle does NOT work the way you think it does.
C. Gold

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 6:21 AM   in response to: Donna St Felix in response to: Donna St Felix
 
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I added three huge problems in the other thread too.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 6:42 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
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Nine Lives wrote:
$1 is for one book which has 9 chapters in total. No need to pay multiple times.
Instead of releasing all the chapters at the same time, I'll be pushing in the new chapters every week.
The readers will have to update the book on Kindle every week to see the new chapter. (Kindle automatically updates the book when changes are pushed from my side)

You are mistaken. Readers who bought the first chapter (even assuming any did so) would NOT get any of the subsequent chapters. They can click on "update" until the cows come home, delete and try to download again, etc. etc., and they will never get anything beyond what they downloaded originally.

You would have to persuade Amazon that they should notify all previous buyers (every week!) of the update and push it to their devices, yet Amazon explicitly says it will not do so just for an extra chapter. The only way you can get a new version of a book pushed to previous buyers is if you persuade Amazon that your book is so messed up that it creates a negative reader experience. Do you really want to try to persuade Amazon that your book is a mess? (They have to do the pushing; you can't do it yourself.) That sounds like a good way to get it banned.
Scott Reid

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 7:13 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
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You may want to consider releasing your book as a web serial and use Patreon.com to solicit donations to support your writing career.

If you do that, you will need A LOT more chapters than 9 as it will be that many before you start to build readers. I have followed a couple authors who use Patreon - one that did it right - Drew Hayes with his SuperPowereds books. And another scifi / fantasy author who totally screwed over his readers with lots of promises of weekly chapters who delivered them at a rate of 1 every few months with little communication - sadly, he has a great book, but has poisoned his reputation with how he treated his readers. At this point he abandoned a serial he was writing to do something more "interesting," (leaving his readers wondering WTF?). (I'll leave out the pseudonym he goes by). The point is, with Patreon and web serials, you need to meet your commitments with your readers if you want to succeed. They don't expect perfect work as they know they are reading first run chapters will only a modest amount of editing and it's written by a young author.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 8:39 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
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Hi Nine Lives

The "one chapter at a time" method is for Wattpad or similar platforms, certainly not for Amazon. S. King used that method at the very beginning of Internet publishing, releasing one chapter at a time and asking $1 for it as long as 75% of the readers at least would pay. But he eventually gave up. And of course, it was a very popular way to do during the 19th century, publishing novels by bits in newspapers :)

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 8:59 AM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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Did you think you'd receive a favorable reply by reposting this in a different category?

If seven chapters are optional why do they exist?

Is this the next Twilight where it's mostly filler to give the appearance of a longer book? Tell the story with exactly the number of words needed. no more, no less, and stop with the gimmicks.

Are you publishing single chapters to avoid the Look Inside?
Moshe Ben-Or

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 1:45 PM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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This is an atrociously stupid idea. If you want to serialize a book -- by all means. Release each chapter as a separate title, price each at whatever you think each chapter is worth, link them with appropriate hyperlinks, and have done. Still dumb, but nowhere near as dumb as forcing people to repeatedly download the same book and jump through all kinds of idiotic hoops.

My advice to you is to write a real book, and release it as a book. I strongly suspect that what you have right now is half a book or less, and you are hoping to make money right away regardless. All you are going to do is acquire a hack's reputation.

A multi-volume novel should be packaged as a series. Each separately-titled volume should be, at minimum, 50K words long.
C. Gold

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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 7:18 PM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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I think we kicked and drowned the cat more than its nine lives, but I added another issue about using the name 'Nine Lives' and posted it in the other thread on this topic.

Summary: Using a generic name like Nine Lives is a very bad idea because nobody will find you, the author. Instead they will find pages upon pages of cat related references. Your pen name is a brand you want people to recognize and be able to search on. While the name 'Nine Lives' is easy enough to remember, you get 20 pages of cat related stuff on the Zon site when trying to find an author by that name. It will only be worse trying to Google it.
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Posted: Jan 3, 2018 9:41 PM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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Nine Lives wrote:
I've finally published my book after 8 years of writing multiple drafts.
I'm trying to create a new mode of reading fiction with this book. The 9 chapters will be released one every week.
Do you guys think that's a good way to promote readership?
Also, the middle seven chapters are optional to read and can be read in any order.

FYI - My Book - Nine Lives of a Politician

I have one last comment to add to this thread--that's hardly a "new mode of reading fiction. How do you think that Sherlock Holmes was originally released? The books and stories of Dickens? Those were ALL released in serial, over 120 years ago. There is NOTHING new about serializing a novel. First, they were done in newspapers, then in periodical magazines. THEN, quasi-magazine style books like Black Mask released Golden Age mystery novels--in series. Hell, it's been done in Reader's Digest, for heaven's sake.

The "Vampire's Assistant/Cirque du Freak" novels are released in serial. Hopefully, by this point in my post, you realize--ain't new.

Moreover, unless you already have a following of readers, NOBODY will get hooked on your novel and buy it that way. You could TRY to submit it to Amazon's Serials, if they are accepting, but they won't accept it unless/until it's finished, by you. So, don't even think about it unless/until the book is completed. Moreover, you need to write a to-be-serially-released novel differently than you write a regular novel; it's more of a potboiler, with cliffhangers each and every chapter or section.

Good luck to you, but the suggestion that someone else made, about releasing it in serial on your OWN blog, and putting up a funding mechanism, will work a hell of a lot better than trying to do that here on Amazon, which won't be amused by the attempt.

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Laia

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Re: Can I keep adding a new chapter every week instead of releasing whole book
Posted: Jan 3, 2018 11:41 PM   in response to: Nine Lives in response to: Nine Lives
 
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I think the idea is original, but probably the readers would get tired of it. Every one want things easy today. I think I would get tired to need to download a new chapter every week to be able to read a book. I would probably do it the few first times and then give up. As some said before, it could be a good idea for a blogs and websites however. That could keep the traffic.
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