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jmsaunders

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Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:04 PM
 
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I used Scrivener to convert my manuscript to a .mobi file to upload for Kindle. However, there is [i]one paragraph[/i] that will not indent no matter what I try. I don't use tabs to indent. I use the slider in the ruler at the top. Every other paragraph indents, and the formatting is exactly the same on every paragraph. I've even tried deleting the paragraph and retyping it. Nothing works. Thoughts?
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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Sep 14, 2012 9:05 PM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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I used Scrivener to convert my manuscript to a .mobi
file to upload for Kindle. However, there is [i]one
paragraph[/i] that will not indent no matter what I
try. I don't use tabs to indent. I use the slider in
the ruler at the top. Every other paragraph indents,
and the formatting is exactly the same on every
paragraph. I've even tried deleting the paragraph and
retyping it. Nothing works. Thoughts?

simple - do it as AMAZON says - in Word and using STYLES
formattingexperts

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Sep 17, 2012 7:15 AM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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Using styles is only way to make sure it works properly.

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punchygonzales

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 12, 2013 2:35 PM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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Maybe you didn't backspace far enough after deleting the paragraph. Or maybe you justcopied your tex and pasted it back in without going to Notepad to strip out the formatting first? Go back all the way PAST a couple of words in the previous paragraph, and then retype them and start a new paragraph to replace the old one. Take the text you pasted into Notepad and NOW paste it in. Should be fine now I think.
katieelle

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 14, 2013 5:31 AM   in response to: divorcedoctor in response to: divorcedoctor
 
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My guess right off is you're on the Mac, you're using the compiler to format, and you have under compiler/formatting/options you have "Remove first paragraph indents" checked. This is designed to let you do the classic first paragraph in a chapter isn't indented, but it can show up elsewhere depending on the settings.

If not, then it's really hard to say with Scrivener without knowing whether you're using the Windows or Mac version and whether you're formatting in the editor or using the compiler override to format the text. In particular, compiling with the Windows and Mac versions is like night and day.

Is the paragraph in a separate section? At the beginning of a section? Is that section in the same "level" of the binder? (Ie folder, document, document with subdocuments)?

Do the same problems pop up if you compile to word or screen sample?
dallaswrites

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 14, 2013 6:00 AM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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It sounds like something in your compiler settings. Scrivener has a great user forum board. I can't remember the URL right now but it's always best to ask questions directly to them. They know their stuff. And make sure you tell them whether you're on a pc or a mac. It does make a difference.
jorp

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Mar 19, 2013 12:09 PM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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Scrivener paragraph indent problem

I keep hitting this indent problem, thinking there's gotta be an easy and obvious way - but there isn't - then researching it online again.

Forget the above comments, I didn't find anything useful or relevant in the previous comments. You need to change preferences (Mac) - If you're a Windows user, that's tools > options (there is no preferences.) (Yeah, it should, obviously be in formatting but it ain't.) Now look at the inset screen, top left of it - you'll see two apparent "left margin tabs". (Tiny, hard to see triangles/trapezoids.) The upper wee triangle is actually the paragraph indent setting and you can move it back to zero with your mouse. Now you're set! ALMOST.

You may have to start a new text in order for this to apply, whether you highlighted the problem text or not, and scrap the old. I just did. Dunno why. Scrivener is awfully useful, but it isn't a polished program yet. Worse, if you don't want to retype, you'll have to cut and paste out of Scrivener to notepad and then back in. Otherwise, you'll cut and paste the same indent problem in along with your text, sad to say.

Remember that indent and much else may have to be reset in compile (to .mobi, say) - compile doesn't much care how things look to you on the screen, it has its own settings. That's a whole different ball of wax.

Edited by: jorp on Mar 19, 2013 12:09 PM
Andy Smith

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Apr 16, 2015 3:18 AM   in response to: katieelle in response to: katieelle
 
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Unchecking "Remove first paragraph indents" as katieelle suggested solved a similar problem for me.

I'm still clambering up the learning curve with Scrivener, but the results from Word to Kindle are so unpredictable that Scrivener justifies the effort of getting to grips with its unintuitive interface and horrible user guide. So stick with it and ignore the people saying 'go back to Word'!
Notjohn

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Apr 16, 2015 1:35 PM   in response to: Andy Smith in response to: Andy Smith
 
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Note that this is a very old thread. I hope Scrivener has improved since 2012.

Good luck! -- NJ

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Viktor Steiner

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 12, 2018 8:16 AM   in response to: katieelle in response to: katieelle
 
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Thanks, Katieelle, you hit the nail on the head!
Salamander Mall...

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 12, 2018 2:15 PM   in response to: Viktor Steiner in response to: Viktor Steiner
 
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Viktor Steiner wrote:
Thanks, Katieelle, you hit the nail on the head!

Viktor, please don't play with dead things.
William Thompson

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 12, 2018 3:16 PM   in response to: jmsaunders in response to: jmsaunders
 
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Don't use the slider or anything else to format your scriv doc. You should be creating and using Scrivener styles for all your paragraphs. This means that you should be using styles to format all your headings, text and spacing(including indents) in Scrivener.

I would also advise that you not to use the pre-compiler > Formatting option in Scrivener. Turn off the precompiler > Formatting option and just set your output in Contents to As Is. This means that what you see in your scriv editor, in terms of layout and formatting, is exactly what you will get in your exported doc. I have also found that the precompiler > Formatting option greatly complicates your doc formatting and, in this respect, is a tremendous waste of time. I write fiction novels and have discovered that using all the fancy precompiler/Formatting options to be entirely unnecessary. So, by turning off the precompiler > Formatting option and switching on As Is then, whenever I create a book in the Scrivener editor, I know that it will visually look exactly the same in my scriv editor as it does as an epub or mobi after export.

Why not try my free Sigil plugins now available on MobileRead?

OpenDocHTMLImport - converts ODT HTML(Writer) docs directly to epub.

GoogleZipImport - converts Google Doc HTML directly to epub format.

NormalizeScrivEpub - reformats, finishes-off and normalizes Scrivener epubs.

You can download all these free plugins from The Sigil Plugin Index on the MR Forum

Ralph E Vaughan

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 12, 2018 5:30 PM   in response to: William Thompson in response to: William Thompson
 
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William Thompson wrote:
Don't use the slider or anything else to format your scriv doc. You should be creating and using Scrivener styles for all your paragraphs. This means that you should be using styles to format all your headings, text and spacing(including indents) in Scrivener.

I would also advise that you not to use the pre-compiler > Formatting option in Scrivener. Turn off the precompiler > Formatting option and just set your output in Contents to As Is. This means that what you see in your scriv editor, in terms of layout and formatting, is exactly what you will get in your exported doc. I have also found that the precompiler > Formatting option greatly complicates your doc formatting and, in this respect, is a tremendous waste of time. I write fiction novels and have discovered that using all the fancy precompiler/Formatting options to be entirely unnecessary. So, by turning off the precompiler > Formatting option and switching on As Is then, whenever I create a book in the Scrivener editor, I know that it will visually look exactly the same in my scriv editor as it does as an epub or mobi after export.

Why not try my free Sigil plugins now available on MobileRead?

OpenDocHTMLImport - converts ODT HTML(Writer) docs directly to epub.

GoogleZipImport - converts Google Doc HTML directly to epub format.

NormalizeScrivEpub - reformats, finishes-off and normalizes Scrivener epubs.

You can download all these free plugins from The Sigil Plugin Index on the MR Forum


If he hasn't figured it out in 5+ years, he probably never will.
Mike Mcgiboney

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 15, 2018 9:59 PM   in response to: William Thompson in response to: William Thompson
 
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I have looked through all the options, where is the pre-compiler located?
William Thompson

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Re: Scrivener - problem with paragraph indent
Posted: Jan 16, 2018 1:00 AM   in response to: Mike Mcgiboney in response to: Mike Mcgiboney
 
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The compiler options dialog can be generated by clicking on File > Compile in Scrivener(there's also a toolbar icon for Compile). I guess that you're very new to Scrivener. In that case I would strongly advise and urge you to click on Help and then select the Interactive Tutorials and Video Tutorials to make absolutely sure that you learn how to use Scrivener properly before you start generating mobis or epubs for upload to KDP.
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