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regosto

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Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 18, 2012 4:43 PM
 
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Every time I preview the book I uploaded, the entire piece of work is warped. The title page isn't spaced the way I have it in the master file, the dedication, copyright, and table of contents are all broken up, overlapping, and misplaced on the page. My poems run together and are broken up, turning 4 lines of text into 7 or vice versa.

I have tried many different types of format styles and have re-compiled my book many times in an effort to have it looking exactly how I want it on the kindle, but all to no avail.

Can someone please help/teach me how to format my book in the document program so that it will show up a very certain way in the previewer and ultimately on the device itself? Youtube and google have both failed me with this one. It's time I turn to an expert.
mrlasers

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 18, 2012 4:53 PM   in response to: regosto in response to: regosto
 
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If you want to have the absolutely highest degree of control over your formatting you will want to work directly in HTML/CSS.

For books that are primarily poetry this is probably going to be easier than using a document editor such as Microsoft Word, even for those with limited knowledge of HTML.

We discussed formatting poetry a couple weeks back on this forum, you might find some of that discussion helpful:
http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?threadID=32596&start=15&tstart=0

If you'd like I'd be happy to take a look at your original file, this would allow me to offer more specific advice regarding your particular content. Let me know if this would be an interest: mrlasers@mrlasers.com.

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regosto

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 18, 2012 4:59 PM   in response to: mrlasers in response to: mrlasers
 
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Hey, thanks for replying, mrlasers. I personally have very little knowledge of both css and html. You mentioned you'd be willing to look over the original file? I would very much appreciate your insight of what I have.

I'll attach it in a PDF formatted file and email it to you. I'm very headstrong about getting this sorted out and getting my book up on the market, thus I will be at my computer and keyboard chipping away at the block. If you'd prefer, we can use a more efficient method of communication.

Again, thanks for replying.
skookumpete

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 18, 2012 9:08 PM   in response to: regosto in response to: regosto
 
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Lots of people have struggled with this. Google "formatting poetry kindle".

You have to keep in mind that as long as users have control over the font size, you're never going to be able to guarantee a certain appearance on the page.

Also, Kindle is limited when it comes to setting multiple margins and indents. You may have to use non-break spaces to push lines to the right. Again, there's good info about this on the web.
davidnwelton

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 1:57 AM   in response to: regosto in response to: regosto
 
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I wrote up some advice that's geared towards LiberWriter, but applicable to anyone working with HTML:

http://blog.liberwriter.com/2011/06/22/formatting-poetry-and-lyrics-for-the-kindle/

By the way: you don't want to work with a PDF file, it's about the worst possible format for conversions. Plain old Word is much better, HTML is best.

David N. Welton
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peterspenser

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 19, 2012 6:26 PM   in response to: regosto in response to: regosto
 
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If you have very little knowledge of HTML and CSS, you might want to try this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007F14XM8/

It talks about easy formatting in general and mentions a little about poetry in particular, where one often needs multiple indents.

Remember, though, that you will never get a page to look “exactly” the way you want on an e-book without doing a fixed-layout format, and a fixed layout means writing code.
lcp2000

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Re: Having trouble formatting poetry
Posted: Apr 24, 2012 3:12 AM   in response to: regosto in response to: regosto
 
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Here's what I do, it has worked well for me many times over.


If it's a simple ebook (ie; minimal formatting and images), I will design it in Sigil ePub Editor. It has a WYSIWYG editor and a code window too if you like to edit html.


Then I use Calibre to edit metadata, add cover, tags, desc, etc., then I convert it to Mobi from there.


Many times it looks just good on the first pass. Occasionally I will have to go back and edit something, mostly because I missed something to start with.


With complex ebooks, I use Word then save to html (Web Page, Filtered), then open in Sigil, etc.


Hope this helps you out...




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