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William Thompson

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Re: Building a linking TOC in Word
Posted: Feb 4, 2018 5:15 PM   in response to: Ned Kelly in response to: Ned Kelly
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Ned...I think you've got your wires crossed. Cynthia and Diane aren't talking about how to create a doc TOC in Word. They want their full TOC displayed in the Go To menu of the Kindle device. That's what they are asking.

Diane & Cynthia...Unfortunately, you cannot expect the full TOC to be displayed in the Go To menu on all Kindle devices. On older Kindle devices the link to the doc TOC is used in the Go To menu whereas in the more recent Kindles the full TOC is normally displayed in the Go To menu. You also have no control over this because it's the Kindle software that controls it all. So just make sure that you insert a bookmark in the TOC heading and name it 'toc' and also ensure that you format all your chapter headings properly using heading styles. If you do that then TOC access for the Kindle user in the Go To menu will be assured on both older and newer Kindle devices.
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Re: Building a linking TOC in Word
Posted: Feb 4, 2018 8:26 PM   in response to: William Thompson in response to: William Thompson
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William Thompson wrote:
Ned...I think you've got your wires crossed. Cynthia and Diane aren't talking about how to create a doc TOC in Word. They want their full TOC displayed in the Go To menu of the Kindle device. That's what they are asking.

Diane & Cynthia...Unfortunately, you cannot expect the full TOC to be displayed in the Go To menu on all Kindle devices. On older Kindle devices the link to the doc TOC is used in the Go To menu whereas in the more recent Kindles the full TOC is normally displayed in the Go To menu. You also have no control over this because it's the Kindle software that controls it all. So just make sure that you insert a bookmark in the TOC heading and name it 'toc' and also ensure that you format all your chapter headings properly using heading styles. If you do that then TOC access for the Kindle user in the Go To menu will be assured on both older and newer Kindle devices.

Will I think it's you who has his wires crossed. The Original post asked how to convert from a paperback TOC to an active ebook TOC.

Kelly is one of the best formatters on this forum and certainly knows how to go about creating an auto-TOC.

Cynthia Stowell

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Re: Building a linking TOC in Word
Posted: Feb 5, 2018 7:32 PM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
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I'm also becoming an expert in what doesn't work. Peartree, are you using a Mac? I called KDP this morning and the guy was nudging me toward using Word's built-in ToC creator, but when he figured out I was using a Mac, he simply said "I'll do it and send you your edited file." He admitted that Kindle's interface with Mac wasn't the best, and I'm thinking that might be the source of all our problems. The file he sent me was in some weird html-like format and I didn't like the look of his ToC, so I may modify the way it displays...probably to my peril!
Cynthia Stowell

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Re: Building a linking TOC in Word
Posted: Feb 7, 2018 2:12 PM   in response to: the_peartree in response to: the_peartree
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If it's any help to PearTree or anyone else, my Go To Table of Contents (the dropdown, sidebar one) finally works. Everything I tried -- linking to Headings rather than Bookmarks, inserting a "toc" bookmark at the start of the ToC, and a zillion other tweaks -- failed to trigger the external ToC during Kindle conversion. I just kept getting generic advice through e-mail so I called the help desk, and once the guy found out I was using a Mac, he admitted that KDP's instructions for creating an active ToC on a Mac were less than complete or helpful. So he made the necessary changes in my document and e-mailed it to me, I then refined it to look better on the page without ruining his coding -- and I now have a working NCX. I have no idea what he did -- some kind of magic not in the KDP instructions -- but the bottom line is that I now have a fully functional book. I guess my advice is to call and talk to someone -- you might not get the right person the first time (the first guy didn't know the difference between an internal and a Go To ToC!) but if you persist, you'll get somebody like Karthikeyan, who knew exactly what I was talking about. Too bad you can't call and ask for him -- you just have to take your chances with whoever answers the phone. Anyway, there's hope for Mac users who have followed the instructions to the letter and still don't get the right results. I would have preferred to do it myself, but was happy to be handed the magic solution. At least I didn't have to call Jeff Bezos!

Edited by: Cynthia Stowell on Feb 8, 2018 4:49 PM
Jamal

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Re: Building a linking TOC in Word
Posted: Feb 7, 2018 4:12 PM   in response to: Diane G Brooks in response to: Diane G Brooks
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Diane G Brooks wrote:
Hi all.

Working on the third book for my series for young adults, and I'm up against a problem. I'm converting the print file into a Kindle format, and I'd like to have a table of contents with links that (obviously) go to the right page when clicked. I can bring all my text and images into Word, but I'm not familiar with how to get the TOC to work that way in Word. I'm on a PC.

Can anyone give me instructions? Or, if it's too long a process to describe, just give me a link to point me in the right direction?

Thanks,
Grace


It would have been helpful to some of those giving the advice if you'd accurately explained your problem in the first place, such as you're using a MAC? Here you say you're using the PC, which normally indicates an MS Windows operating System.
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