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inyun

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:02 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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Sarge was paranoid but I do believe that some people had it in for him.
thetimucuan

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:04 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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He complained about what the forum had come to, and people ran him off for being a bore.
inyun

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:11 PM   in response to: thetimucuan in response to: thetimucuan
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You can say Sarge was very opinionated but he was not boring to me. Some and even I got tired of hearing how good the Select program was for him. I think is was wrong at predicting the demise of Barnes and Noble. With their MS deal who knows what might transpire.

Thom
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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:12 PM   in response to: avaganda10 in response to: avaganda10
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You know, I don't want us to do that. I get your point and agree. I don't even look at links that say "Free" or seem to be sales-ish and get annoyed at the repeating ones. But here's the thing. I want to be a welcoming forum and I have to say that I find the policing against indie authors in the other forums appalling. Even if we have to put up with a few sales threads...

Maybe if we just ignore them?
thetimucuan

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:13 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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That was kind of a joke.
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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:16 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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I guess that's part of my point, as well. I want everyone, opinionated and all, to be welcome. Have harsh disagreements if we must, but then make up afterward. I don't always agree with everyone and have my own loud and opinionated viewpoints, but if we all leave the thread at the end of the day okay with ourselves and each other, then we can talk about anything.

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inyun

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:25 PM   in response to: jeanetteraleigh in response to: jeanetteraleigh
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Well Jeanette,

You were here when all the crap went down and you wrote the best metaphor for my Sharecropper thread. The point is that most of us are still here and are now getting along well together. I have read threads that involve two authors that hated each other back in Feb. getting along quite well now. My reason for bringing this all up again is that The Voice of the Author should be the catchall of all the forums. If you do not liker the poster just ignore their posts.

Like the dandelions you wrote about springing up all over the world. I wonder if poodle 500 ever knew he was a dandelion instead of a weed?

Thom

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 6:32 PM   in response to: diamondlifestyle in response to: diamondlifestyle
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Hell, I'm wondering when I'm going to get a sale.
42rthomas

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 7:55 PM   in response to: avaganda10 in response to: avaganda10
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What goes around, comes around. This forum will cycle like most other "communities". A newbie comes in and a newbie leaves. Some hang around and become the voices of the neighborhood, so to speak.

Have some fun and we'll answer all the serious questions with really really good answers. Or we'll just make something up.

BT
inyun

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 8:53 PM   in response to: 42rthomas in response to: 42rthomas
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Yeah and you were the guy that killed friend Frisco and had the horse eaten by that farm worker's family. How cruel of you.
inyun

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 10, 2012 9:01 PM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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If anyone wants to know what we are talking about check out this old thread.

Please finish the following story
Posted on: Mar 12, 2012 12:20 PM, by user: inyun -- Relevance: 17% -- Show all results within this thread

The sharecropper wiped sweat from his brow. Day, after day he had planted and reaped crops for both he and the landowner. One day he decided to plant something new. A seed to bring wonder to his dr ...
diamondlifestyle

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 11, 2012 12:31 AM   in response to: frederickpreston in response to: frederickpreston
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Right, Frederick. Firstly, get the book tagged. Go on the book's page and press T twice in quick succession and a little box will open up - you can add up to 15 keywords/phrases.

Secondly, you blurb. Waaaaaaay too long, you've summarised the entire novel point by point rather than teased the reader to find out more on their own. There's no point buying it, because you've already told people what's going to happen. Try something like this:

[b]Golgotha: 33A.D. He should have been dead. But on the third day, he rose, hungry for blood and burning with desire for vengeance. Reborn a vampire, Jesus Christ goes in search of those who wronged him during his life. With Mary Magdalene as his consort, he vows to bring a whole new kind of holy war to those that betrayed the Son of God.[/b]

...or whatever. Point is you don't need to give us a blow-by-blow account of the action: one or two paragraphs is enough. Whet people's appetites, get them panting for more. The premise is strong enough that it can stand on its own without giving away much of the plot. The blurb can be changed through authorcentral rather than republishing on the bookshelf. There's no look inside feature yet, so I can't say anything about your actual writing, but that should help, at least to start.

Oh and to prove the point that the premise will get people talking I just tweeted a link to your book with "Jesus Christ: Vampire" after it, and I've half half a dozen people reply to my tweet. It might not get you any direct sales, but people talk, they share stuff if it catches their attention and the more talking and viewing your book the better you chance people will buy it.

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daysoldier

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 11, 2012 1:06 AM   in response to: avaganda10 in response to: avaganda10
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I definitely appreciate your frustrations, but I personally don't think we should make any rules forbidding self promotion for this forum.

It could very easily hinder our ability to get good, genuine feedback. For example, I've seen many authors here get fantastic feedback about their blurbs. Sure, some of those people were just using it as an excuse to get people to go to their book page, but some of them were genuinely asking for help... and they received great help.

If we make it so nobody can self-promote here, the rule would inevitably include any posts that involve linking your book and asking people to check it out. Otherwise it would be meaningless.

I would rather we just deal with the "Post your book here" threads than end up making some rule that might hurt genuine authors looking for advice.

As far as the other off-topic threads, I think tolerance is better than intolerance. For example, just tonight I replied to a post about religion in the general discussion.

I immediately realized that's not how I want to participate in this forum, so I edited it and commented that it's not the best place for that discussion.

However, I'm 100% fine with other folks having that discussion if they enjoy it. I don't care. It's just not why[i] I'm[/i] here.

I personally prefer this forum to be open to anything. When we start restricting what folks can talk about, genuine posts will inevitable be lost because of it.

Just my opinion.
mattj6

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 11, 2012 6:10 AM   in response to: avaganda10 in response to: avaganda10
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I think to a certain extent, for the sake of being welcoming and democratic, we have to put up some "Ginsu Knife" personalities. The reason I say this is this forum is just as much about people having one place where they can share their success and good fortune as it is a place to discuss serious 'writerly' issues. The spamming (DO YOU WANNA MAKE MORE MONEY!!!) is another issue, but I don't have an answer to that. Also, I think LibraryThing, Shelfari and GoodReads are great places to go if you want the conversation to stay purely serious and intellectual (not that it always does there, either). I myself was guilty here yesterday about getting too carried away with my sudden jump in "sales" (it was a free promo). It was fine (I think) for me to post the first time when my numbers jumped, but I admit, the second time in the afternoon was a bit over the top, and I felt bad after that. Anyway, best to everybody!
avaganda10

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Re: What’s happened to this forum?
Posted: May 11, 2012 6:57 AM   in response to: inyun in response to: inyun
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'Now you come along with one month under your belt and ask what has happened to this forum.'
I feel I need to correct you Thom if you click on avaganda10 you'll see the date I first contributed to these forums as 4/7/11.
I noticed yours is 10/15/11.
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