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vlgallas

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 12:00 PM   in response to: arthurcentral in response to: arthurcentral
 
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"I'm a veteran journalist with an excellent reputation, one who has practiced authenticity and transparency before the terms applied to the World Wide Web. Indeed, I was on the Internet long before there was a WWW."

When was that? I've been on the internet (and had websites) since 1993. As for your snippy remark comment... I'm a reader with a Kindle and there's no way I'd ever buy an 8-page blog post for $2.99. I do not know anyone that would. Amazon is attempting to give you a message before it is too late and they block your account. Take heed.
writeranne

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 12:44 PM   in response to: arthurcentral in response to: arthurcentral
 
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i just started another thread re: What the heck is DUNY stores? because I found my book on there. I notified Amazon that I think this site is pirating amazon books. Heres a link. Just try to search by your name or name of book. Others have said they found theirs there too.

The link I'm sending happens to be for the cookbooks because that's the book of mine they have, but a simple search will find other genres

The site looks oddly similar to an amazon site too. I just sent off the email to Amazon so hopefully they will get back to me soon.

http://www.cook-book.biz/professional-cooking-cookbooks/4251/3.html
christophergrapes

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 12:53 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
 
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If you take a closer look around that Cook-book.biz site, you'll notice that adding it to your cart merely just takes you to Amazon's homepage. They're not selling the books themselves, but acting as a referrer.

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writeranne

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 12:58 PM   in response to: christophergrapes in response to: christophergrapes
 
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If you take a closer look around that Cook-book.biz
site, you'll notice that adding it to your cart
merely just takes you to Amazon's homepage. They're
not selling the books themselves, but acting as a
referrer.

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Are you sure? Then would it be in violation of the Select program TOS if it's not being sold by them? But then again, why would they say my book was sold out, when in fact, it's an ebook which really can't sell-out?
breakaway1177

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 1:00 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
 
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If you take a closer look around that
Cook-book.biz
site, you'll notice that adding it to your cart
merely just takes you to Amazon's homepage.
They're
not selling the books themselves, but acting as a
referrer.

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Are you sure? Then would it be in violation of the
Select program TOS if it's not being sold by them?
But then again, why would they say my book was sold
out, when in fact, it's an ebook which really can't
sell-out?


Because they are dumb affiliates.... simple as that.
bookdrawer

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 1:01 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
 
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Amazon has an affiliate programs that allows people to link Amazon products to their Web sites or blogs and make a commission. The products are usually linked with the affiliate id hidden in the URL.
diamondlifestyle

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 1:29 PM   in response to: writeranne in response to: writeranne
 
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1. It's an affiliate. You can tell easily by clicking on the link and seeing if it takes you back to Amazon or not.

2. There's no point informing Amazon about any pirate sites. Amazon are a distributor, that's all. You're the publisher, therefore if your book is pirated it is your responsibility and no-one else's - certainly not Amazon's - to resolve the situation.
notjohn

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 2:11 PM   in response to: arthurcentral in response to: arthurcentral
 
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**I had taken that, and the rest of the email to mean that it is my title with my name that they found available elsewhere on the net for free. This is confusing because they mention "copyright" and "public domain".**

What you quote is the usual boilerplate from the "quality" department. It is quite maddening because I don't think it even comes from a person but is simply shot out by a software program. You will respond, but your response won't contain the exact words that the software is looking for, so you will get more boilerplate, probably this time mentioning the awful word "terminate."

You must be persistent, thorough, and unfailingly polite. Attachments will probably help, especially if you have a website on which some of the material appears.
arthurcentral

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Posted: May 30, 2012 2:21 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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Wrong link


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arthurcentral

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 2:31 PM   in response to: notjohn in response to: notjohn
 
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Thanks, notjohn - I realize this is all automated, and I did reply politely, if a bit desperately. In 40 years of being traditionally published, I've never been accused of plagiarism. It's a bit unnerving for someone who vigorously defends her copyrights to be put in such a nebulous situation, not knowing what the program refers to - if anything real.
tony227

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 2:58 PM   in response to: arthurcentral in response to: arthurcentral
 
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I can understand them looking to remove content that is at most just cut and pasted from the web. But the system they seem to be using is lumping regular authors in with that content.

They seem to be using some automated system that compares book text with search engine results. This of course is a terrible way of finding such content. They are then sending out the same form letter to anyone the system hits on.

Let me be clear, the books it listed in the e-mail to me are all written by me. Nothing in them was taken from the web and I do not offer them anywhere else. They have also all been on KDP for nearly two years and each has had hundreds of sales, one has been my best selling book overall.

As far as what I am doing about it? Well right now I am between a rock and a hard place. I wrote them a letter asking to clarify the problem and that I have never posted my content free elsewhere. They sent back almost the same exact e-mail demanding urls and threatening to pull my books.

I spent an hour searching last night, and all I found was snippets of one book I had posted on a blog I owned. These snippets contained less than 1% of the book.

The other three I could not find anywhere, but for all I know someone could of cut a paragraph out of them and posted it somewhere. One of the books in question has over 10,000 copies sold.

With a digital medium like this, that anyone can cut and paste content from. It's damn near impossible to try and track down random bits of your work. sigh
o0charlotte0o

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 3:08 PM   in response to: vlgallas in response to: vlgallas
 
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TBL released his gift to the world around 1991, however it was a while longer before browsers capable of accessing http became widely available for the rest of us. I was on the internet before I was on the web, too. I didn't like the web at first. I thought it was too "gimmicky". I preferred the clean efficiency of the command line. Now it's hard to remember that there ever was such a time.
arthurcentral

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 3:09 PM   in response to: tony227 in response to: tony227
 
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Ditto and thanks for bringing me up to date between the rock and hard place.

I guess I'll wait a bit and see what transpires. It sounds like lots of us "legitimate" authors are in the same place. Maybe when The system receives enough responses ending in question marks, it will flag a problem for humans to look at.
cactusu

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 3:45 PM   in response to: arthurcentral in response to: arthurcentral
 
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I googled myself and found one of my books listed on "grannyscloset.com" and when I contacted them, it was a simple error. They had superimposed one number in the bisn and my book showed up. They removed it with an apology.
It is always wise to google your own books periodically to see if anyone else is carrying them and selling them.
bookdrawer

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Re: Threat to remove content - found free on the web
Posted: May 30, 2012 4:50 PM   in response to: cactusu in response to: cactusu
 
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I believe if you provide them with URL to other sites you may sell you book (Barnes and Noble, Smashwords, you Web Site) this may help. I came across another discussion on Amazon and that is what they mentioned.

http://207-171-168-158.amazon.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?threadID=38042&tstart=0
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