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chadcampbell

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 2:59 PM   in response to: beccamills in response to: beccamills
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Seriously going to spout some dumb thoughts and then cant find a quote eh?? Seriously. I am pretty sure its not me making the mistake
david19271

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 2:59 PM   in response to: phildukephd in response to: phildukephd
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After 11 pages maybe the facts aren't so simple.
chadcampbell

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:01 PM   in response to: thetimucuan in response to: thetimucuan
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Oh look at my kdp excel sheets. I have sold a billion books!! I hve kdp worksheets that say so
diamondlifestyle

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:19 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Chad love I quoted you on about page 10.

The problem we always come back to is that you fly off the handle the second someone diagrees with you and it descends into name-calling and pettiness. Look at the entire thread before you joined, lots of strong opinions back and forth, but did you see anyone slinging mud or calling people names? No you did not. In your very first post you started:

Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 19, 2012 3:49 PM in response to: accord64
[i]If you have a book that sells little to no copies then it has little to no value. If you are able to give away 16000 copies and the giveaways results in any percentage of sales then you have made a smart business decision. I know a lot of you struggle with this. [b]But clearly you are an idiot.[/b] The book does not sell makes its worthless. Anything to increase its value is good. Unless you have some master secret to increasing sales the rest of dont know. I have done a lot of advertising spent hundreds on various opportunities and the only positive outflow i've seen was from the giveaways. Yes there are cheap people but if your book is good. Even they will buy it. As long as people are smart with their giveaways. Ie not all of their books the system will not collapse. Also none of those things were facts[/i]

People will treat you as you treat them. You need to learn how to express your opinions without descending to just ranting because it's not effective, in fact it's harmful. How many times do we have to tell you that when you write for children / young adults you need to set an example because it's not them that will control their reading, but their parents? All you're doing is creating negative publicity for yourself.

So you don't believe someone - so what? Let it go. We're all just strangers at the end of the day. But some of these people can help you and offer you advice that it would be worth your while listening to. Rather than flat out rejecting anything that doesn't fit your view of How Things Are, perhaps consider them from a different angle?

Think of it like a work exercise. After all, us writers are supposed to be able to climb into anyone's head. All you're demonstrating here is ego, and no ego ever made a good writer.
beccamills

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:31 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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And please becca i'd like to see one quote

See diamondlifestyle's 1:16 p.m. post on p. 9 of this thread.

When you dislike someone and you then use their gender (or their race or their religion or whatever) as a way to attack them, it gives the impression you think their gender is one of the things that's wrong with them.

If thetimucuan is a troll and a woman, the fact that she's a woman has nothing to do with the fact that she's a troll. If thetimucuan is a troll and has no children, the fact that she has no children has nothing to do with the fact that she's a troll. If thetimucuan is a troll and an unmarried woman, the fact that she's an unmarried woman has nothing to do with the fact that she's a troll.

If thetimucuan put a 1* review on your book and is a woman, the fact that she's a woman has nothing to do with the fact that she put a 1* review on your book. Etc.

When you link those unconnected things together and throw the whole package at thetimucuan, it makes it sound like you think being a woman or an unmarried woman or a woman without children is [b]a bad thing[/b], just like being dishonest, cowardly, etc. are bad things.
chadcampbell

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 3:48 PM   in response to: beccamills in response to: beccamills
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Also you failed to say how i was a misogynist. Yes i added several non related insults together. They dont have to relate they are insults. Its like old fat bitch. The three insults have nothing to do each other but added together just more insult power.
chadcampbell

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 4:00 PM   in response to: diamondlifestyle in response to: diamondlifestyle
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Diamond another thing you seriously underestimate me if you think i dont go amd think every angle out before i post. You think i reject someone because i dont agree with them. I use name callin when they are being an idiot or retarded no because i disagree with their position. I do it because they have no weight or validity in their position. You have these idiots who do not understand what its like to not sell a book to anyone besides friends and family for three to six months. Tim thinks you just publish and bam sell a 1000 clealy a liar and an idiot. I mean how do you not argue that just for the sake of others
beccamills

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 4:26 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Also you failed to say how i was a misogynist. Yes i
added several non related insults together. They dont
have to relate they are insults. Its like old fat
bitch. The three insults have nothing to do each
other but added together just more insult power.

Right you are, Chad. Yep, there's nothing misogynist about calling someone a "fat old bitch." Nothing at all. And if you called someone a "filthy stinking Jew," that wouldn't mean you were antisemitic, either, eh? 'Cause any three insulting words are just the same as any other three insulting words.

Good lord. It's amazing to see [i]a writer[/i] so profoundly misunderstand the power of language.

Look, if you think thetimucuan is wrong, just explain why and leave it at that. The reasons are what will convince people, not the name-calling. From the reaction you're getting, it should be clear that you're damaging yourself in the eyes of other people on this forum, including people who pretty clearly don't agree with thetimucuan about much of anything.
chadcampbell

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 4:30 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Diamond so you dont think that dumb people are dumb? Do you like lying to yourself? I didnt see any strong besides idiotic says like things that arent facts are called facts then people saying that giving away 16000 books to get 2500 sales is bad business. Its only stupid if he started off selling if he wasnt or was selling small amount then it was genius but instead of seeing it they just argue like idiots i said one name idiots and you throw a hissy fit like i attacked him and didnt say any points. Where i screw up is idiots ee it just like you wrote it. They highlight the name and ignore the rest just like you did.
robethpublishin...

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 7:40 PM   in response to: chadcampbell in response to: chadcampbell
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Well actually (Kate reminded me) you once called me ugly, dumb and lacking personality.

Tsk tsk....not a nice thing to say to a lady.

Not only was is misogynistic - it was untrue. I am both beautiful and smart. You can ask my mother.

:)

Really Chad, you are a bit of a rude snot. No offense.

Bobbi
michaelraytaylor

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 7:45 PM   in response to: keithrogan in response to: keithrogan
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Re: "Amazon is a business. It isn't just a book retailer, it's selling everything from Kosher foods to sex toys."

Do you think there might be a market for Kosher sex toys? Always looking for a sales opportunity ...
tracihilton

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 8:15 PM   in response to: diamondlifestyle in response to: diamondlifestyle
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To Kate, who has deserved this award 1000 times over:

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thetimucuan

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 20, 2012 8:15 PM   in response to: michaelraytaylor in response to: michaelraytaylor
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I know there is a market for straightjackets.
columnfive

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 3:17 AM   in response to: phildukephd in response to: phildukephd
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Agreed.

It's elemental.

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skybluead

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Re: Some simple facts about Freebies
Posted: Jun 21, 2012 4:54 AM   in response to: columnfive in response to: columnfive
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I just want people to read my books - is that so wrong?
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