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Re: [b]HOW TO TRANSFORM A WORD FILE TO A KINDLE READY MOBI BOOK[/b] :)
Posted: Jun 6, 2012 7:35 AM   in response to: tinavin05 in response to: tinavin05
 
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You can pick up a fairly inexpensive version like Dragon 10 on ebay. (they are up to 11.5 now for) a starter system!

The Key is the Microphone -- the one they give you is Barely Adequite for speach recognition!

I will see if I can hunt up the link!

JT

;)

here is a link to an old post on dragon

http://forums.kindledirectpublishing.com/kdpforums/thread.jspa?messageID=128411&#128411


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Posted: Jun 17, 2012 9:39 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Hello Jtbigtoad,
I was following your instructions on how to make a TOC. I did it incorrrectly. Now I have hyperlinks working on each chapter but they don't link back to the TOC page. Is there a way to cancel the hyperlinks so I can start again and do it right?
Thanks for the invaluable help you offer.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 6:26 AM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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The way I create a TOC doesn't create a reciprical toc!

I.E. the Hyperlinks from the toc are One Way only!

If you like, You can try to make the chaprert titles Hyoerlinks back to the toc

I always just use the Kindle GoTo menu that goes back to the Toc.
also users can go back to the toc by using the "Back" button.

To cancel a hyperlink, go back to the Word.doc and right click the hyperlink and select 'remove hyperlink'' to delete the active link!

JT

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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 2:04 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Thanks. I'll go in and remove the hyperlinks and start again.

I have 22 chapters; it is a memoir, not a manual. If I do a TOC the way you do, will I have Chap all the way down to 22 listed in vertical lines, or can they be hidden? It seems like an unattractaive start to a book.

That's what I did in my other e bok but it had only 12 chapters.
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:40 PM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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You can stick the TOC in the back of the ook if you like

Also with the "Hand Made Toc" you can name the chapter Links anything you like.

This can be handy as sort of an advertising for the general direction of the book

instead of Chapter 1, call it "My early Years"

then Going to school

My trip to New Orleans

(of course a Memoir is going to be limited in its structure.)

"The Informational Toc" is useful as an advertisment of the book's action if it is a bit of a slow starter and the typical Sample/LOOK Inside isn't going to show much of what the book is all about!

You can stick the Word TOC Anywhere if you opt for the additional MOBI Toc, it is best put at the end of the book as it will appear at the very front of the book if you check the "Put the Toc at the front" box.

JT

;)
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Posted: Jun 18, 2012 9:55 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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You can stick the TOC in the back of the [u]b[/u]ook if you like

This screws up syncing of the "furthest read location" when changing devices and should be avoided. I know that some "big publishers" also do this, but that doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.

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Posted: Jun 19, 2012 8:26 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Thanks.

I'm going to try using phrases like My Early Years instead of Chap.1, etc. on the TOC page and keep it at the front.

But this raises another question:

When I begin by going to each of my chapter headings to insert a bookmark, do I no longer need to insert a number, as long as the first word or two is the same as the phrase chosen for the TOC?
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Posted: Jun 20, 2012 6:29 AM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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Actually Bookmarks can be anything you want them to be called!

Rule: They Must start with a letter (a-z) -- I avoid caps -- no spaces or special charecters !@#$%^&*()-=

I will call them
ch01
ch02
.....
ch10
ch11

The leading 0 (Zero) keeps all of them in line when you are hunting for them in the Look up

otherwize they line up

ch1
ch10
ch11
...
ch2
ch20
.....

If you convert to MOBI via CXalibre the start position will be the first item in your Word toc (The physical (Logical) location)

A "Hand built" toc can be any order you want but the MOBI Toc will re arrange them in the sequential order they appear in the book and the first item will be the start position of the book

I like to start my books on the Word cover (this is different than the GoTo cover that Kindle adds (or you put in with Calibre)

the result is a "Double cover" but this is a necessary evil like the Double toc (Word Toc + MOBI TOC) to get the book to function as desired.

JT

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Posted: Jun 24, 2012 8:01 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Hello,

I succeeded with the TOC, thanks, and have uploaded the book but need another day to finish previewing it and make corrections.
One problem that stands out is that clumps of lines (from 2 to 11) at the tops of pages are not indented to the margin line.

They were fine in the original document. I would really appreciate it if you have any more suggestions.
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Posted: Jun 24, 2012 9:07 PM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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When you preview, are you using the online one or the downloadable one??

The new Downloadable previewer (2.4?) is able to emulate many different Kindle devices.

the Block indentation is usually a word.doc thing are you using Word.doc or Word.htm or the MOBI Conversion?

Check out what is right before the errors

this is often triggered by short choppy quotes in a Word.doc

JT

;)
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Posted: Jun 25, 2012 8:41 AM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Hi,

I am looking at the online Previewer.

I worked in a word doc. In my book to be zipped file I uploaded it as a Word HTML document. It is not a Mobi conversion.

I know your instructions were to use block to make my file but I'm afraid I didn't.

I'm looking now to see if there's anything choppy before the faults.

thanks.
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Posted: Jun 25, 2012 7:31 PM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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Usually the Word.htm doesn't suffer from the Block quote thing -- it is just Word.doc's

you may want to carefuly check the Word.doc and re do the Save As webpage (Filtered)

You may have had garbage in the original version

Also the SaveAs Webpage thing isn't as robust as the Word program itself

You can have problems with the word document that the program itself can overcome but the conversion will fail

You may need to cut out the pages and Nuke them and re format them and put them back in.

If you have been Cuting and copypasting stuff sometimes garbage will creep into the document.

make sure the Paragraph style is consistant.

when I create A style i base it on Normal (normal normal that is i.e. just plain ole text with no formating whatso ever!)

if you are not careful you will have a style that is indented and then de intented and the de indentation gets lost in the shuffle and only the indentation is left.

JT

;)

Note Word is really junkey under the surface == it is like a HotDog you really don't want to know what is inside!

Some times the filler leaks out!

Worst case senario yu nuke the whole document and

copy the whole document and paste to note pad then copy all of the note pad text and paste to a nice clean fresh Blank Word document

then re do all the formating.... a pain!

That is why i suggested doing just a few pages wher the error is !

still a pain, but smaller

J
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 6:02 AM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Thanks. You are very helpful, as always.
I'm going through all your advice and will do this:

"You may need to cut out the pages and Nuke them and re format them and put them back in."

My problems stem from having had the paperback original of this book converted by amazon digital services at their suggestion around 2007. In those days I hadn't even heard of formatting and just trusted them to do the job.

I found out the hard way (by a bad review after a free promotion) that it was unreadable. I wrote Kindle and they returned the PDF to me. It was in awful shape, with the biggest problem being short lines.

I nuked the whole thing and at that point I contacted you and have it in pretty good shape now. The only problems are these clumps of lines at the top of some pages, and the fact that the links aren't working in the Preview.

I started a new thread to see if anyone else got themselves into this pickle.
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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 6:17 AM   in response to: vicalumna in response to: vicalumna
 
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Links do not work in the online preview!

They are there for show only!

If they work in the Word.doc, they will work in the Kindle Book!

Pdf to Word to Kindle is a BIG Can of worms!

My guess is that you still have some Headders or footers that Should be ignored but may have junk in them!

Have you tryed the show formatting All?

In the word .doc control+shift+8 is supposed to toggle on the show formatting function the $para; is the paragraph (enter Key) and the (little right arrow) is the tab and little dots are spaces.

You may want to look at this in the Word.DOC and also the Word.HTM for discrepancies

Open the Word.htm by right clicking it and selecting Open With ... Microsoft Word -- if you double click it it will open in your web browser!

JT

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Posted: Jun 26, 2012 3:25 PM   in response to: jtbigtoad in response to: jtbigtoad
 
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Hi again,
I have looked for discrepanicies between the doc and html versions, with 'show all' activated. There are no wrong spaces or returns.

However, the two versions are not the same. They both claim to be 11 pt, but the number of words on a line varies in 8 out of 11 of the instances I am checking. These variations are not immediately at the point where the problem is but in the same paragraph.

Do you think it would help if I changed the left margin setting from 0.5" to 0.3"?
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